On 2018-06-13 4:28 AM, Richard Hipp wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to
robot harassment. I am working to come up with a fix or an
alternative now. Your suggestions are welcomed.
If you're open to a commercial mailing list with web archive features
I'd recommend Groups.io <https://groups.io/> over either a Yahoo Group
or Google group. It has the key advantage of being under active
development by a developer with deep experience in mailing lists and a
commitment to bring them into the modern world. It is also run on a
"freemium" business model which means no ads or tracking/selling of user
info.
Too, if you can export the current MailMan archive as an mbox file they
can import it for you. The web interface provides search and browse
capability for message threads as well as reply and new topic posting.
The email interface provides full subscription management support
(subscribe, unsubscribe, digest or individual messages, and topic muting
or following) for those who don't want to bother with the web interface.
The most recent problem is that robots are visiting the subscription
page and entering innocent user's email addresses and names. This
causes a confirmation email to be sent to that user. If it were just
single confirmation email that the user could ignore, that would be
fine. But apparently MailMan sends one email for each subscription
request. The robots have figured this out and are putting in hundreds
of subscription requests for the same individual, apparently to harass
them.
I don't know if Groups.io has a specific countermeasure for this novel
form of abuse, but the developer would no doubt take care of it were the
problem to follow you. I can inquire (or you could) at supp...@groups.io
if you're interested.
I haven't heard of any of their user lists being afflicted by anything
like the porn spammer that has cropped up here, but as you know since
that happens entirely off-list there's not much that can be done about
it by any list software. There has been talk (in their "suggestion box"
list) of having "anonymous" groups where the outbound messages would not
contain the poster's email address; but that hasn't been implemented yet
and it isn't clear that the users of this list would want that anyway.
One of the reasons I suggest this is that Mailing list implementation
and support can be a bit of a rabbit-hole, particularly with ongoing
deliverability challenges like DMARC, FBLs, and other over-aggressive
spam blocking by mailbox services. Groups.io works those problems so you
don't have to.
That said, I don't necessarily want to discourage you from considering a
roll-your-own forum or list facility as others have been discussing, if
you would enjoy doing that or if you envision a killer advantage.
Shal
List Owner: GroupManagersForum <https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum>
Recovering Yahoo Group
<https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/GroupManagersForum/info> power user
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