In order not to let a wrong impression slip into the collective long-term memory:
Heilmann complained about several points in "his" article, some more, some less worth considerable. It was also about his private life. So, reducing it to his Stasi past or saying that he is using "Stasi methods" - as it has been done numerously - would be too shortsighted. (Stasi methods would include socket poppetry, checkusing, and brutal killing making it look like an accident.) In a way, the Heilmann case is somewhere between "Mainland China" and "Seigenthaler". Certainly Heilmann showed an incredible naivity about the Wikimedia universe and the consequences of his legal actions. For a couple of days the media heavily critizised on him, and they were right to do so. But later that issue was out, and a new view came up: several quality (also: non left) newspapers stressed out that the Heilmann case dealt with some serious problems of the Wikipedia principle of openess. We Wikipedians should not think too lighthearty about the case, although we certainly enjoyed the huge public support. Ziko 2008/11/16 Ian A. Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The controversy was about mentioning his past in the former East German > Stasi - something he had not told the truth about to the general public > during the election (according to the Wikipedia article and the sources > named, which amongst others is Der Spiegel). The information, and sources, > seem all very reliable and pass all criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. > > Techcrunch[1] also mentions claims of threats against ex-boyfriends - I > couldn't find any when I checked this morning, so they might have been > removed in accordance with policy. > > This isn't the first time the German chapter has had an interim injunction > issued against them[2], but everytime the matter has been resolved in a > professional manner and the media have been very pro-Wiki.[3][4] > > Ian > [[User:Poeloq]] > > [1] > > http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/16/german-politician-blocks-local-wikipedia/ > [2] http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t28622.html > [3] http://www.edri.org/edrigram/number4.2/wikipedia > [4] http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/02/09/1323220.shtml > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, effe iets anders > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > for the interested: *Keine weiteren juristischen Schritte gegen > Wikipedia* > > : http://www.lutz-heilmann.info/ > > > > 2008/11/16 Magnus Manske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Bryan Tong Minh > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Apparently the German portal on wikipedia.de has been shut down > after > > > > a legal case. Is there any more information on this? > > > > http://www.wikipedia.de/ > > > > > > Apparently, some German communist politician was angry about something > > > in "his" article, so he got a court order to prevent forwarding from > > > wikipedia.de to de.wikipedia.org. > > > > > > On his web page, above politician now says he won't proceed further > > > against the German chapter (who owns wikipedia.de), which might mean > > > the forwarding can be reestablished soon. > > > > > > Magnus > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > foundation-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
