To be clear, I still consider the process to be broken, and I think it would help if there were more transparency there. More transparency means features do not get implemented just because someone with the keys thinks its a good idea, but because they spec'd the feature out formally and there was no doubt in anyones mind that they had given due process to finding consensus. I did not come to this thread attacking anyone, but rather a process. That certain people felt attacked is unfortunate - they have missed my point.
I am willing to put in some work though. What I plan to do is show the grant usability team (and mediawiki-l list) what editing Wikipedia articles might look like with SMW+SF. I haven't been able to find an adequate demo of this. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote: > On 1/15/09 11:19 AM, Brian wrote: > > Chad, > > > > What more would you like me to do, specifically? > > The first things that would help would be: > > 1) Stop looking to blame someone for past wrongs > 2) Think of something that *would* actually help, and do that > > When a discussion starts in a negative direction, and continues on and > on and on in that direction, it ends up alienating the people you would > need to be working with to accomplish your goal -- it all ends up > sidetracked as a big ad-hominem debate about who's a bigger jerk and > nothing actually productive gets done. > > > If you'd like to push for more active evaluation of SMW and introduction > of either SMW or a refactored, slimmed down data storage/query system to > testing and production use, I think that's great! > > We've been looking at it for years and hoping we'd have a chance to poke > at it some day; it's the beginning of a new year, projects are starting > up, and this is a time that we're setting priorities. > > > But it would probably be better to focus on positives like thinking > about what can be accomplished and getting interested parties excited > about working together than to repeat over and over that you believe a > past decision was wrong -- even if you're absolutely sure that it was. > > -- brion > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
