On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]>wrote:
> 2009/1/23 George Herbert <[email protected]>: > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Thomas Dalton <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> 2009/1/22 Mike Godwin <[email protected]>: > >> > allowing editors who insist on being listed to be > >> > listed > >> > >> I think unless that is opt-out, not opt-in, it won't help and if it's > >> opt-out if probably won't make things much easier. > >> > > > > Why? > > > > If we assert a default "sense of the community" that the URL is > reasonable, > > and allow individual authors to override that (and consequently annoy > > readers and redistributors in the future) how does that negatively affect > > any author's rights or property? > > Either it's reasonable, or it's not. If you feel the need to give > people the option of opting out, then obviously you think it isn't > reasonable. Also, why should people that have edited in the past and > then moved on not get the same rights as current editors? > No, I think it is reasonable. If I were the License Czar we'd just do that and be done with it. But this is a community, with some people with aggressively diverse opinions. Imposing from above without flexibility causes pain and suffering and hurt feelings and people leaving the project and firey poo-flinging monkeys on UFOs to descend from the heavens. I think that overall, we have to do something like the proposed CC-BY-SA-3.0 details to balance author, reader, project, and content reuser interests, and I believe that that's ultimately not negotiable. Optimizing the implementation of BY so that people who agree that GFDL -> CC is good but who disagree on the BY credit-by-web approach can still stay included, while still balancing reader and project and content reuser needs with author needs, is a good thing. A default to the reasonable approach, with exception allowed for objectors, works fine for that. -- -george william herbert [email protected] _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
