Brian wrote: > How is that different from: > "[...] if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the encoding, we > should embrace [...]" > > You forgot the bit about liberating it. > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <[email protected] > >> wrote: >> > > >> Brian wrote: >> >>> Pretty sure we are saying the same thing - what part of my comment struck >>> the wrong chord with you? >>> >>> >> I think it is the " we should accept free content in any format." >> bit. ;-) >> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen < >>> >> [email protected] >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> Brian wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I hold the same sort of pragmatic view. In the absence of freely >>>>> >> licensed >> >>>>> content encoded in a free format we should accept free content in any >>>>> format. I think it would take a revolution within the Foundation staff >>>>> >>>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> >>>>> the most vocal parts of the community (note that I did not say >>>>> >> majority), >> >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I think this is the exact opposite of what I wished to convey. >>>> >>>> I do not hold we should accept non-free content. I don't hold >>>> that view. Period. >>>> >>>> But if there is content that is *only* encumbered by the >>>> encoding, we should embrace and liberate it from those >>>> bonds. >>>> >>>> That is all. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> It seems like a lot less work to solve the recoding >>>>> problem, and anyway, there is a lot of content that has yet to be >>>>> produced to worry about. Sticking to the ideals no matter what will >>>>> help more of that free content in free formats be produced in the >>>>> future when there are more people around to do the >>>>> creating. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen < >>>>> >>>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Starling wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some people in the community take the view that supporting >>>>>>> >> proprietary >> >>>>>>> standards, as an option alongside free standards, weakens the ability >>>>>>> of the free standards to compete for mindshare and client support, >>>>>>> >> and >> >>>>>>> thus that it shouldn't be done. We would have to have that >>>>>>> >> discussion, >> >>>>>>> and possibly a vote on the issue, before deployment of any software >>>>>>> solution. But the software should come first, at the very least it >>>>>>> will be useful to support alternate free formats such as Dirac, Speex >>>>>>> and FLAC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know who "Some people in the community" are, >>>>>> but just in case they are anything like myself, who does >>>>>> hold a view not entirely distant from the one you describe... >>>>>> >>>>>> The one thing I would say is that gettin unencumbered >>>>>> material that was only encumbered by the encoding it was >>>>>> being carried by to formats that are free, is a net plus, no >>>>>> matter if it meant we were also carrying the encumbered >>>>>> format version. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours in deep amity; >>>>>> >>>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foundation-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > >
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