> OK, the question has popped up so many times, that I think it would only > be > fair to give it a separate topic on this list :) > > Now I'd like to have a discussion about this, and not just assumptions. > Let's not be childish and say "yes it is, no it's not" (which some of the > discussion comes down to) but lets play around a bit with arguments. > > This discussion is btw not new at all, I remember to have discussed over > it > several times, and I've had both opinions probably in time. Mostly this > discussion comes up when a project (in the past at least several times > this > was the Dutch Wikipedia, as some might remember) felt that the commons > community was damaging the content they uploaded there without them having > a > say over it. The even more important question is, however, when comes the > moment when the two are in conflict? > > I doubt any project actually cares whether commons has out of scope images > (well, a few might, but that is actually commons people then imho, not > wikipedians/wikisourcians etc), not what the categorization is like. As > long > as it works, they can upload their stuff, it is safe, and they can use it. > The problems often came when a few "bad people" (paraphrasing it as it was > received by the Dutch Wikipedians at the time, no insult intended) were > damaging their content (at the time, it was for example about Coat of > Arms-png's being deleted) and they felt not heard or helped by others. > > I think that is currently a repeating pattern in some way. A smaller > group, > with all best intentions, decides to "harm" a collection of content, and > people feel attacked by that, and react in a not-so-positive way. > > That is where the service project and the independent project clash. Were > it > merely service, the commons would abide the wish of the wikipedians > (wikisourcians etc), were it independent, the Wikipedians would have bad > luck and live with it. > > So now please share with me, in those conflict situations, which should it > be, and, most importantly, why? I'll believe service project is great in > ideal situations, as would be independent, as long as everything goes > fine. > But in these border cases? > > eia > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >
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