On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Benjamin Lees <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry, where I said AbuseFilter I meant to say FlaggedRevisions. I'm not > > sure on how AbuseFilter came to be agreed on. > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Jennifer Riggs <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> I'm curious. In your perspective who is doing the central management > > >> that makes it difficult for ideas to percolate up? WMF, Jimmy, Board, > > >> select administrators/highly involved community members? In your > > >> opinion, is there an infrastructure barrier or a personalities one? > > >> > > >> jriggs > > >> > > > > > > It's an infrastructure, policy and outreach issue. I assume that every > > > single person has the very best for the projects in mind and is doing > it > > for > > > the right reasons. > > > > > > That said, I see the definition of community being interpreted very > > > narrowly. I liked what I saw with AbuseFilter but that was a singular > > case. > > > Filtering edits is almost on the same level as showing advertisements. > In > > > these rare cases any change you try to make will quickly make its way > > > through the community because many people will be outraged. There are a > > lot > > > of other situations that don't propagate as well, not because they > aren't > > > very important, but because people just don't know about them. > > > > > > I really like the ParserFunctions example. Enabled with hardly any > > > discussion and now used 500,000 times on the English Wikipedia. It had > a > > > major effect on Wikipedia that made it much harder to use. And now we > are > > > stuck in a programming mindset and we all assume that we all agreed to > > come > > > here. It just isn't the case. You won't be able to find where that > > agreement > > > happened. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > On which wiki do you mean, for FlaggedRevs? For the English Wikipedia, my > understanding is that consensus was reached in favor of a limited trial for > FlaggedRevs three months ago, but it hasn't been enabled yet because the > tech team is still tidying things up and checking that everything works < > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-May/043187.html>. > This > was not a matter of the Foundation consulting the community—the community > petitioned the Foundation, from what I can tell. > i didn't know it happened that way. I thought that, quite some time ago, the Foundation paid a developer 20k to develop the extension, and then got community approval for at trial? _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
