Thank you for the information! I am curious what the ESP group about China will have to report. Kind regards Ziko
2009/10/20 Jimmy Xu <[email protected]>: > Hello, > > First of all, apologize for any inconvenience made by my poor grammar. > > As a Chinese, I should say, most people here knows (or uses) the Baidu > Baike, because Baidu is commonly known in China Mainland so its > service is well-known too. As for Hudong, although it's known as the > largest Chinese encyclopedia (per it's main page), I should say that > it's not so well-known as Baidu's. At least for me, I didn't heard > about it unless someone mentioned it in the Village Pump. And for > Zhwiki, the amount of users is increasing now because before the > Olympics last year, the Chinese government unblocked the Wikipedia. > As for the collaboration process, both Baidu and Hudong use a > manual-checking process. That is if you submit a "sensitive" edit, it > won't be displayed and possibly you'll be blocked without further > notice. (But, if you just "vandalize" these two sites, like add some > jokes, most of the time this would be passed and displayed...) > And as I know, the Wikipedia is the only which requires a reliable > source when adding something doubtful. So although "WIKIPEDIA MAKES NO > GUARANTEE OF VALIDITY", it's sure to be more reliable than the other > two. > After all, the last question: "how liberal is the content". The answer > to this question will also solve the problem why the Chinese Wikipedia > has fewer users from China Mainland. Because the server of the > Wikipedia is placed in the USA, the Chinese government cannot > "control" these (as it controls Baidu or Hudong or etc). So it use > something called the "GFW" to block the Wikipedia from being accessed > by China citizens since the Wikipedia is "neutral" and do not filter > information as the government wants. For example, if you attempted to > access [[:zh:六四事件]] (which is *very* "sensitive") you will see > "Connection was reset" and you'll be unable to use the Wikipedia in 90 > seconds. That also produced a bad impression like oh, the site is > down. Clearly, you are not able to see any information about that on > the "intranet" of China. > > That's something I can say about these three. Regards. > > Jimmy Xu > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Ziko van Dijk <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Having read >> http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/10/14/wiki.china/ >> I would like to collect more information about the situation of online >> encyclopedias in China Mainland. I am now browsing a litte bit around >> with Google Translator, but it remains difficult to get an impression >> concerning the following questions: >> * how the collaboration process differs >> * how good is the content >> * how liberal is the content (not contamined directly or indirectly by >> the government) >> Does someone of you knows more? >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> -- >> Ziko van Dijk >> NL-Silvolde >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > > > -- > http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimmy_xu_wrk > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
