On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Birgitte SB <[email protected]> wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Recent firing? >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 4:55 PM >> Personally, I process about two or >> three hundred emails per day (yes per day), so the small >> amount of noise the Foundation list creates is negligible to >> me. >> >> If someone is so annoyed by a thread, that they can't even >> bother to DWR (delete without reading) based merely on the >> subject title, I would think we need to question whether >> that person has the right temperament for the internet >> whatsoever. I delete at least two or three dozen >> emails every day without reading them, if I already know the >> subject is not going to be of "interest" to me. >> >> I would submit the real issue here, is not that people are >> doing that or could, but rather that they have a compulsion >> to *keep reading* the thread. Sort of a, "I don't want >> to be left out, or I want to keep watching the train wreck" >> or something. I'm not a psychologist. I do know >> however, that the entire issue of "let's close this thread", >> "let's moderated these people", " this is too noisy" and so >> on, is endemic to the entire email world. Not merely >> this list. >> >> I can't think of any list I'm on (and I'm on a few dozen), >> where the issue does not come up with regularity. It >> is merely part of the way internetlife is, in my opinion. >> > > > "The right temperment for the interner?" > > Maybe you would have a point if this was and email list targeted at people > who spend every waking hour plugged into the internet. I realize some of > come close to that. But that is not the target audience of this email list. > Nor the Wikimedia movement. And if those of you who have the temperment and > lifestyle for such participation do not control yourselves enough so that > this forum might succeed in included more than just those participants > similar to yourselves, Wikimedia will be sorrier for it. > > On a personal note, last week I have gone to having the responsibilities of > three people jobs, instead of only those two I have been handling for most of > the past year. Maybe I will resubscribe when I can hire people again. Good > luck with making sure this list is worth re-subscribing too. I truly hope > you all succeed with that. > > Birgitte SB
Hear hear. And even people who do spend a heck of a lot of their time on Wikimedia might not want to spend it all reading F-l. And no, they don't have to -- but if you want to keep up with general discussion about the Foundation, you actually *do*. This is the main forum. Dominating it is as rude as being that guy in a classroom who won't shut up, to the detriment of all the other students who can't get a word in edgewise; only in this case, there's no professor to maintain order. If you're that guy, it's not like you're more brilliant than everyone else; you're just more talkative and don't have any social skills, and you are adversely affecting everyone else that has to share the space with you. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Improving_Foundation-l is still up but hasn't gotten any new traffic in the last few weeks. Suggestions included: * starting a forum * starting an announcements list * limiting posting others? -- phoebe _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
