On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Klaus Graf <[email protected]> wrote: > For me there is no reason to believe that Mr. Godwin is a good lawyer. > > If he receives a formal (blah-blah) correct take-down-notice he will > take OFFICE ACTION. > > It was clearly un-lawful to take down the TU Munich logo which isn't > protectable according German copyright law but WMF has done so. > > It is a shame that WMF hasn't a policy of TRANSPARENCY regarding > office actions. The right of the community to get all information > cannot be overruled by Mr. Godwin's personal opinions about secret > things. > > If WMF or it's god-like counsel (who wasn't able to accept critics > since I am reading this list) has taken office action - there is no > way to appeal. Roma locuta causa finita ... > > Klaus Graf
Could you restate this in a way which was not personally insulting to Mike, and by implication to the Foundation as an organization? Mike has been at the forefront of liberalizing open access to information and the open content movement for at least 23 years that I've known him. Despite that, it's his job to see that the Foundation finds an acceptable balance point between freeing all information we can, and not being sued into oblivion by someone whose legitimate copyright we infringe. The Wikipedia project can't practically survive without a Foundation to take some legal responsibility and help keep the lights on / servers running. We are not Wikileaks - and even they have found some limits on what they can get away with, though those are fortunately loosening over time. I can believe Mike might under some circumstances make a mistake, but assuming he's acting unreasonably or without regard for open content is assuming bad faith in the worst way. It's not called for and not helpful. Asking what happened, or trying to promote discussion on something that happened, are fine and reasonable. Just outright assaulting the Foundation and Mike is not. Please don't do that here. Criticism can be done constructively and in good faith. Thank you. -- -george william herbert [email protected] _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
