On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Noein <[email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wikipedia should be kept a neutral repository of knowledge, not a social > ground for games. Once you take the path of creating a futile community, > there is no way to talk about the long term goals of the WMF, the > vision, the ethics, the humanity, the knowledge. You just have people > who are here to have fun and to socialize. It would add noise, not signal. >
> Moreover, I think attracting readers is very different from attracting > editors. I don't see how it would be positive to convince people to edit > articles with superficial reasons in mind. > My main point is that we could be more fun and accomplish our work better because we would have more hands doing the work. I don't see doing hard work and fun as being mutually exclusive. > > However external sites could use the content for games or comments (like > Facebook does). This way, the site originating the "fun attitude" would > be distinct from the site about knowledge. Wikipedia would get attention > without being invaded. > Yes, integrating with social networking sites and perhaps other real world venues would be a good way to add a social side to WMF. Sydney Poore > > > On 19/06/2010 23:58, Sydney Poore wrote: > > English Wikipedia has numerous contests during the year. Some people > > regularly participate in them and enjoy them. > > > > Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest is an example of one that > is > > ongoing. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MILCON > > > > Picture of the year is popular with some people on Commons. > > > > While everyone does not want to be involved in contests, they appeal to > some > > people and I see no problem with us introducing more of them in WMF > projects > > to see if they will draw people into the movement. > > > > I feel the same way about encouraging new ways to get different groups of > > people involved with WMF projects. > > > > If gaming can be used to promote an interest in WMF then that is > goodness. > > Puzzles, board games, and even more complex fantasy games using content > > might be a draw for some people. If someone wants to develop them I would > > not stand in there way. > > > > Combining community service and socializing is very common in community > > organizations, and is appealing to many people. By adding more social > > components to WMF projects, we will most likely draw in people that > > otherwise would not volunteer. I see this as an important tool and one > that > > should not be dismissed if we are going to broaden the base of our > > volunteers. > > > > Sydney Poore > > (FloNight) > > > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Marc Riddell < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > >> on 6/19/10 4:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell at [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> <snip>. > >>> > >>> There was a great TED speech that I need to look up but don't have the > >> time > >>> for at the moment. The premise of the presentation is that studies > have > >>> shown time and time again that things like games, prizes, awards and > >> other > >>> measures of gratitude are only temporary measures to increase > motivation. > >>> The folks that work for you that are the truly motivated ones and > >> believers > >>> in the process do not ask for these rewards. A pat on the back and a > >> "good > >>> job, thanks for your work because I value it very much" occasionally is > >> the > >>> only true recognition that is needed. The other fluff only inspires > >>> distraction from the goal because it's creating other little goals > which, > >> in > >>> turn, become more important than the end result. > >> > >> Yes! Prizes denote direct competition as in sports or, more subtly, with > >> the > >> science & arts awards. > >> > >> Person-to-person affirmation goes a very long way; and is what > >> collaboration > >> & community should be based upon. Give them the climate, and they will > give > >> you the culture. > >> > >> Marc Riddell > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> foundation-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMHUNyAAoJEHCAuDvx9Z6LUUYIAOM+5k+9DTcEZsjBfrG5gRI2 > +QWaqRNB3+H7ax2qculCgBX7Y801SSxkuolnpouhy247xXq/GqH+3/WHGEf9bAd9 > dt+D0Dzfhvvl3Ag+vTvcRPWBIaH6ZiZvuO5b6uGa2rmiK6h9C+mJEEcIVmiPtsuH > p4vh1xUnB3jjK3fzpkVBdT+4C8+XpViwhdEFzMagBEmCaIh6qABrRhe+f/vC7crZ > Ao0IZj/SjNuP4J/nWBjngiFcXabQdBYCarjc5gkWeF8ma75YEqmCBWe4YRcqYyOE > Opb5S/V7Zoc3IFq3zJbWaP2WBjY8omHqMA6e5dBYpH8AIEH0XzJCMd6HteGJASI= > =RCSg > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
