On 8/12/10, Mathias Schindler <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Abbas Mahmoud <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yaroslav: X has no problem with Israel, there's even an embassy in country >> X, from which he applied the visa, but since he is on a work permit in the >> Middle east, the embassy sticks the visa on another paper. Since the >> country where he works from isnt in good terms with Israel, he travels to >> Israel from his homecountry X. Wouldn't the immigration officer in country >> X bar him passage due to the fact that a visa is only recognised if >> sticked on a passport, and not a piece of paper? > > Wouldn't it be more productive to stop talking about X and see if > there are actual Wikimedians out there who wish to take part in the > 2011 Wikimania but can't because of their local oppressive government > and their laws and regulations? > > This is very constructive Mathias, however I prefer if we eliminate any > judgmental tone towards governments or societies or persons. The issue is > quite complicated, complex and extremely relative. Accusing some governments > of being oppressive opens the door to counter accusation against Israel and > we will end up in an unpleasant loop.
Even within Arab nations who have direct flights to Israel, the decision to attend has its own considerations, which makes this issue a complete relative and personal decision. Thanks for understanding. M > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
