Slightly OT, in some parts, sorry in advance, On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Mariano Cecowski <[email protected]> wrote: > > Osama, I'm afraid your view is very self-centric. > > We Southamericans have a really hard time getting into USA; and I'm sure many > couldn't go to that Wikimania because of visa problems. As many couldn't go > to Thailand because because of economic reasons. And some didn't go to Egypt > because of religious issues. There is always something that will prevent some > people to assist to a Wikimania; that's why we rotate the host!
I'd like to join Mariano and Brianna; that's why we rotate host cities and should. I'm personally concern with visa availability, since I've seen our potential good speakers hindered to attend in the last minutes, but also I think it should remain one of considerations, not the sole. Every country should have a chance to host which would make the local attendance easier. > I can't believe people complaining about getting the visa in their passports > that will later prevent them to visit an Arab country; 20 bucks and an hour > standing in line and you have a new one!! (unless you live in Cuba, or > Northern Korea). Uh-oh, i think it depends. At least in Japan, it wouldn't go so easy nor fast and it costs much higher. I suppose that if people complain, they would have good reasons and that not every thing goes in a same way in different countries. > Please, let's concentrate on making life easier for those with problems who > *do* want to assist to Wikimania 2011; the rest is just wining, and trying to > take political advantage of the current situation. > > MarianoC.- > > --- El jue 12-ago-10, Osama Khalid <[email protected]> escribió: > >> De: Osama Khalid <[email protected]> >> Asunto: Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011 >> Para: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <[email protected]> >> Fecha: jueves, 12 de agosto de 2010, 8:17 >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 03:59:38AM >> -0700, Mariano Cecowski wrote: >> > I beg to disagree; getting into United states is >> anything but easy. >> >> Maybe it depends, but I assume it won't be much harder for >> a European, >> Asian or African to get one than a Saudi. Why are we >> discussing this >> anyway? >> >> > And is not that Israel won't give visas to potential >> attendees; in >> > this case is the home nation of the interested ones >> that sets >> > obstacles. >> >> That's not the issue I'm trying to address here. I'm saying >> it's >> difficult. Maybe Israel wants Arabs to be there (this is >> out of topic, >> but I'd assume that they surely don't like the fact that >> they're being >> disrespected for their actions). But what's important here >> is, again, >> that many, many people won't be able to come. >> >> > Additionally, the current political situation between >> given >> > countries should not affect the realization of this >> apolitical, >> > non-religious global conference that seeks worldwide >> collaboration. >> >> It's not about what Wikimania is what it is not. >> >> -- >> Osama Khalid >> English-to-Arabic translator and programmer. >> http://osamak.wordpress.com | http://tinyogg.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- KIZU Naoko http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Britty (in Japanese) Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
