Hi! > you have mentioned that provider can give logs to government, probably > also wikipedia must give its logs to government, if requested, is not > it?
Wikipedia cannot give logs to government, as it has none. > users cannot request in provider's official web forum to make dynamic > ip or nat? probably you mean that they cannot require/demand/claim/request(?) > that as their right that is written in > law. No IP is anonymous - based on various usage patterns one can determine who is behind it :) > i am not from "intelligence service" :) . you mean something like spy? I meant someone who has some sarcasm detection skills. > not, i am not. as i said, i ask this because i think that tatar people > should be managers/adminstrators/controllers of texts they wrote, and > that texts are read mostly by tatar people. if logs are not published, > that mean that they can be read by wikipedia owners, by us government, > but not by tatar people. Logs cannot be read by wikipedia owners or us government because they don't exist. You're free to suggest aggregations of interest to you - now we provide hourly pageview counters for each article. Wikipedia does not track its readers, last time I checked. > i have not seen that of > wikipedia. publishing full/raw logs also is not much violence of > privacy, i think. I really really would like to avoid going into any ad hominem attacks, but you're not capable to see much, then. > and wikipedia could say "if you do not want to > publish your ip, then do not use this" but take in account that there > is no problem with hiding ip and referer. and so there is no problem > with anonymous reading. Wikipedia will not say "do not use this", because its primary goal is to spread knowledge, and that includes spreading knowledge to people who value their privacy. > anonymous writing is already generally blocked by wikipedia itself. You can edit under a pseudonym. That is already good enough. IPs identify real people way more than pseudonyms may do. > and users who are "tracked" also will know that their browsing is published. Sorry, disregard word 'intelligence' used before in any forms. Domas _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
