Risker, I'm not arguing here about the merits of the change itself. All I said is that demanding answers about a very sensitive discussion on a private mailing list is inappropriate right now, and that there's no reason to panic, since the standard operating procedure is to make a public announcement about something when a project is ready.
Demanding answers on Foundation-l is a lot different than the news about an upcoming change trickling out into the community prior to an official announcement. The latter does no harm. The former can derail a productive discussion about a delicate issue before it's ready for public comment. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3 February 2011 22:27, Steven Walling <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The discussion has only been going on at the OTRS list sine February 1st. > I > > know a public announcement is coming because it's standard operating > > procedure at the Foundation. Please be patient. > > > > > Steven, I recognize you're in a difficult spot here, and so are some other > staff members who I know are genuinely working in good faith here. However, > thinking that one could send out an instruction like that to hundreds of > volunteers throughout all of these different projects, and not having it > surface, is just a little bit naive. > > Further, there are some serious concerns being expressed in various places, > which go all the way down to whether or not the resolution on which the > instruction is based actually has the effect that is intended. Simply put, > identifying to the WMF does not, in law, make a person accountable, if it > cannot be proven that they know what they're accountable for, or to whom > they are accountable. Unverified identification provides even less > protection. Methods of securing the data have not been addressed fully > addressed, nor has the issue of whether this applies to *every* > identification made to the WMF as of now, or if it applies only to OTRS > agents identifying. We have a pile of people about to run in the steward > elections, will it affect them? > > I support the notion of individuals with advanced permissions and access to > nonpublic information being accountable to the WMF for the use of this > information. But sending in an unverified document isn't going to do that, > and it never was. > > Risker/Anne > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
