On 03/07/11 11:27 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Birgitte SB<[email protected]> wrote: >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Ray Saintonge<[email protected]> >>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 3:54:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2006-2011: Mexican, Argentinian, Brazilian >>> governments distance themselves from freedomdefined 1.0 >>> >>> On 03/05/11 8:04 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: >>>> I'll ask the same thing here that I asked in the other thread and no one >>>> responded to, which is, can someone please provide some concrete examples >> of >>>> how this issue affects Wikipedia, rather than discuss the disagreement in >>>> purely abstract and theoretical terms? Frankly, I have very little idea >>>> what the post below means, which is something I'd like to change as it >>>> sounds somewhat important. >>> Of these three I would find the Mexican situation to be of greatest >>> concern. Mexico already has extraordinarily long copyright terms. It's >>> in the ND feature that the potential moral rights problems lie. When is >>> a derivative sufficiently different to be defamatory. What is the >>> thinking behind adding the ND parameter. Is it some vain attempt to >>> ensure accuracy, or is there a more insidious reasoning. >> ND also rules out translations > (I always thought this was a weakness of the original ND idea. There > were a few long debates within CC about whether to enable translation, > or to have a separate translation-specific flag, which faded out.)
Translation is an important problem, and it is also key to making material available in less developed languages. Linked with moral rights it gives too much leeway to those who would claim that a given translation is defamatory. It makes me wonder whether big copyright holders would be willing to give free, translation specific licences into the less common languages. They would not want a situation where the free material ends up being translated back into the original language, but the laughable quality of that kind of effort may be enough to prevent it. This may not satisfy the purists, but it would move things in the right direction. Ray _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
