> If only I could be so sanguine; I cannot disagree with Fred's first > paragraph, but as regards his second I must take issue. For a start, > current > events should be covered by Wikinews, and subsequent *encyclopedic" > treatment of those events be dealt with in analytic terms and in > retrospect, > by Wikipedia. That is why we have two projects, and not one. As regards > the > stance of the British government towards the media in this case, and in > previous cases, it's clear to me that there is a dislocation between the > two- and in my experience, the government has long since lost the support > of > the media, except in most general terms, and that is why we have the term > "spin-doctor". It's a two-way process, and not a new one, and where I am, > I > cannot see any way in which the division of reponsibility to the citizen > is > to be resolved. TBH, the relationship between politicians and the media, > and > both of them have their suspect agendas, is always going to be > problematic, > and all we should do as documenters of what happens is to perhaps stand > back > for a while, and when the dust has settled, > > WRITE A FUCKING ENCYCLOPEDIA! > > Why is that a problem?
Most of us have agendas, and this is the only major outlet most of us have access to. Fred > > Fred Bauder wrote: >> Speaking of the British tabloids, of course. >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/world/europe/10britain.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=globasasa2 >> >> The lesson for us is to not take a leading position, be topical, but >> to report events which have occurred and on which there is some sort >> of considered opinion and a set of known facts, even if it takes a >> day or two for them to develop. In the case of these tabloids its >> going to take months. >> >> The power of topical media is two-edged, seemingly exceedingly >> powerful, king-makers, but, as anyone familiar with our limited >> resources knows, quite weak if under serious attack, as is being >> shown in the case of the principals involved in this crisis. The >> British government is sick of kowtowing to them and seems to have >> just been waiting for an opportunity. >> >> Fred >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
