I would personally recomend you people to send your questions to RonaldB<http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:RonaldB>(the *one and only* person who receive those datas)
I'm not dutch, but that system is in place since Jully 2007<http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sokpop&diff=next&oldid=8590452>, and Huib is the first one to complain about it - a 4 years working system with only 1 complain seems to be just fine to me. _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.* 2011/7/10 Thomas Morton <[email protected]> > > Seem to work though. > > Does it? Where is the evidence for this? I'm not being hasty in forming a > firm judgement here - other than to say it doesn't, on the face of it, seem > like a good idea for a project to be doing this. > > > And if the details of the handling of private data is well outlined and > confined it could be a good thing to have. > > Indeed, if. But again, no word or evidence of such things so far. > > I do think this is a serious problem that needs investigating: > > - The argument that this is essentially an optional function is not really > appealing, and is easily said by those who are not blocked. Saying "if you > want to edit send a stranger your identity" does not sit comfortably with > me. (this is just my personal view, but I include it for completeness) > > - Saying this is disconnected from Wikipedia/the Foundation is a red > herring > - it is organised via the website, so for any user utilising this service > it > looks to some extent "official". The Foundation have a reasonable duty of > care to its users and at this point they are not able to properly audit or > oversight the handling of personal details. > > - The whole idea is a "false flag" anyway because identity is beyond > trivial > to fake. So, it is not about identity, but about some slightly high barrier > of action for an individual to take - the idea being it filters out the > more > casual bad guys. In which case; a more suitable alternative to identity > could be used. Perhaps a hand written letter asking for an unblock? That > seems much better system. > > - EU data protection laws *explicitly* apply to the handling of personal > data by private individuals. And as an enabling medium Dutch Wikipedia > could > easily also be considered a controller within the scope of the law (they > are > intentionally very broad). This means if the data does end up being misused > then it will be a major blow; hence it seems sensible to require some > investigation of this process. > -- As an addendum to that the process described on the Dutch Wikipedia at > the very least need to comply with EU directives. For example the person > processing the data must reveal his name and address (I realise that is > likely to happen, but I see no clarity on the matter and no oversight to > ensure this occurs) and the details of *precisely* what will be done with > the data need to be published (and kept to) > -- We need to establish (prefferably with a lawyer) to what extent this > process is considered necessary or relevant; because if it is one or > neither > then it is non-compliant. > > There is also an extended risk here; something simple like an admin > unblocks > the account of "Bram van Rijn" and, when unblocking him, says "There you go > Bram, enjoy editing!". Something simple and innocent is now non-compliant. > > For that reason people handling identity in a capacity relating to > Wikipedia, even semi-officially, need to be well vetted. > > I have argued this before several times in relation to other such things on > English Wikipedia, and I realise my view may be stronger than the > majorities. But in this case it appears not even a cursory check is being > undertaken. > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
