Nathan, I think that Raul Gutierrez, Maria Alameda and "Elizabeth" are all the same person, somebody trolling the list. While we occasionally get single-issue new posters starting topics, it's rare to see them pop up in the middle of a topic just to attack one user. Something fishy is definitely going on here.
2011/7/27 Nathan <[email protected]> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Maria Alameda <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Hello all > > I usually don't comment on mailing lists but a colleague of mine referred > me here. I wanted to comment on the issues related to Native-american > research raised earlier by Ms. Stierch. I found her outlook completely > isolated from the realities. > > I would rather attribute her naivety to her limited view of the world as > a fresh graduate. Personally, it reminds me of a somewhat racist outlook > common among predominantly white-american graduates and students. While I > agree there is a need for more research related to Native american culture, > I really can't agree with the implication that Native american culture is as > overlooked as some unknown tribe in New Guinea. > > I should be thankful for her enthusiasm but this is ridiculous. I'm happy > for her residency at National museum of American Indian(s) and her thesis or > even efforts to change certain policies on Wikipedia, but none of that is > connected with the much-larger cultural and race issues she's referring to. > While I wish her the best, I would hope she not use her thesis as an excuse > to comment on the realities of those cultural issues. Oral citation is just > one small aspect of a much larger culture she learnt in school. > > I might be too sensitive here, but if her comments were to be applied to > african-american culture in the United States coming from a female > white-undergraduate student pursuing her masters, her comments on the plight > and the issues of an entire race would seem rather patronizing. Perhaps, its > just me. > > Maria AlamedaM.A, Ph.d (Native American studies) > > > > This seems like an over-reaction to me. It doesn't seem horribly > unlikely that Sarah is, if not alone, then among a very small group of > academics studying the intersection of Native Americans and Wikimedia > projects. > > Were her descriptions of the challenges facing Native American > communities inaccurate? > > Are you aware of outreach efforts by the WMF aimed at Native > Americans? (There are certainly many aimed at many other groups around > the world; the seeming absence of focus on Native Americans would > support Sarah's statement that they are "overlooked" in this regard). > > Could you explain the specific errors she made that led you to call > her e-mail racist, patronizing and naive? I think if you are going to > use such strong words, then more substantial criticism is required > than simply stating that she is female, young and white. > > Nathan > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
