WereSpielChequers, 05/10/2011 13:51: > Webpages are only permanent if someone keeps hosting them. I can see that > if the Italian Wikipedia was back up someone in Italy might send a note to > the WMF asking them to comply with this Italian law. But if an editor is no > longer active on the site it would be retrospective legislation to oblige > them to return to a site in 2012 and publish a rebuttal note to something > they wrote in 2006. > > If it is retrospective legislation then there may an opportunity for the > opposition to appeal to the European Court.
You seem to confuse this proposed law with the Barberini vs. Galilei issue: it's not about rebuttals, it's about publishing of corrections and statements. There's no need to ask the original author, everyone could be asked to. > If this legislation is passed then one option would be for the Italian > Wikipedia to be restored, but with a site notice explaining that "This site > is hosted n the USA and operates under US law rather than Italian law, click > here if you are in Italy and need to see rebuttals posted under Italian law" > . Then you could have a rebuttal namespace transcluded onto the article for > those who have said they are in Italy and therefore need to see the > rebuttals. I don't think we should solicit such requests, but perhaps it's too soon to discuss such implementation details as the specific namespace and so on. Besides, the existence of a sensible process to respect the law wouldn't prevent people from following different ones, under the crazy original paragraph 29. Again, think of the 20 M€ trial against WM-IT president... > This blackout is bound to lead to more Italians reading and perhaps editing > other language versions of Wikipedia instead. It would be interesting to > hear from the WMF what their policy would be on IP requests from the Italian > Police, particularly if any were made re Italian editors editing other > language versions of Wikipedia. I'm not sure the police can ask IPs here. Not that the police respects the law. > In the meantime there may be an unusual number of Italian editors seeking > renames from named accounts to pseudonymous ones. Would it be possible to > upgrade that process so that mailing list archives, former signatures on > talkpages and other uses of an editor's name were also amended? That wouldn't be effective. Alternative identities should be created and then privately communicate through clandestine means... :-/ Nemo _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
