On 30 October 2011 16:44, Brandon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:

>        (One of my favorite things about talk pages is that, for most people,
> *there is no talk page button*.  There's a "Discussion" tab.  So when
> someone says "Hey, just leave me a message on my talk page and I'll help
> you out!" that means. . . nothing.)


+1 - this one got me attempting to explain stuff to someone on the
phone last week.

I suspect our main newbie problem is Wikipedia's utter opacity.
Outsiders have *no goddamn clue* how this thing is even supposed to wo


- d.

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