This hostility is being reflected in the drop at the number of the editors.I 
agree with the ''automatic-message theory''. None likes automatic messages. In 
my view, it should be reserved for vandals.
Newbies needs a special priority. Something like: ''Hi, thanks for your 
edition! We hope you become part of our team. If you need anything, just talk 
to us''.
It's not hard to do, is it?

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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:45:33 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment
> 
> On 1 November 2011 23:39, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > If the sources are so important to Wikipedia, this has to be easier to 
> > newbies.
> 
> 
> The essential problem is that the Wikipedia community is newbie-hostile.
> 
> Not actively - mostly - but passively. They view newbies as trouble and work.
> 
> Hence all the pushes back against newbies - trying to further restrict
> page creation and so forth, the problem with citations, defending the
> impossible markup, open hostility on Special:Newpages ...
> 
> So how to make the other side of the newbie experience not suck for
> the incumbents?
> 
> 
> - d.
> 
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