On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:12 AM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > On 22 January 2012 23:50, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So we will put a few fallback datacenters elsewhere, just so our >> various communities and chapters realize we aren't going to be >> bullied by US jurisdiction. > > > AIUI setting up the new Virginia datacentre took considerable effort > and planning, so it's not a trivial task. And the key, of course, is > not "do we have a few hundred squids?" but "where does the really > pretty centralised MySQL database for that particular wiki live?" But > this suggests a significant part of the hard thinking on this issue > has been done.
"You might very well think so, I couldn't possibly comment. (for one, not to embarrass your view of your own acumen)" :-D > > This ties into the question (which should be easier to raise now) of > "how forkable is Wikipedia in practice?" Not for purposes of forking > with rancor, but for basic backup hygiene: given the available data, > software and configuration information, is it actually feasible to > create a working backup of Wikipedia, if the WMF is hit by a legal > meteor? Just for my own purposes, I do have to profess and and proclaim; if I ever did talk about forking in rancour, I did say I would bankroll their way, not join them out from the ship. And keep the money reins tight so they didn't ever turn hostile in earnest. But the last point is cogent. OPEN is a Pandoras Box. It isn't a legal meteor, it is a hangmans noose around the whole Internet. And as such, it would pretty much force a thousand Baidu Baidus around the world to bloom, which is why Google is not waiting, but is acting right now. And sadly wikipedia is still not living in the real world on this. > > This is getting towards a wikitech-l discussion ... but your basic > concept is sound: as digital natives, we understand instinctively that > the way to preserve something is to spread *lots* of copies of it > around. Even if doing so is quite difficult and unwieldy. While I would love the wikitech people to be on the ball and do some hardcore contingency planning, the real issue is strategic, and entails moslty that we show ability and willingness no make a stand, not just for one day, but for all time. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
