Finding nudity offensive is not a cultural universal. Members of some cultures may be offended by looking at certain animals full-on or in photographs; what if those animals popped up in search? Where does it end? Where do we draw the line?
What do we hide (or erase) and what do we keep unhidden? If you look at it from a monocultural perspective, the answer seems not so hard - perhaps we just hide everything showing sexual organs (but then does this include female breasts?) and violence. Some people may advocate hiding images that contain words like "fuck". Of course, in other cultures other things are offensive, and there are literally thousands of different cultures on this planet with differing sensibilities and different ideas of what is right and what is wrong. The only strategy I support is one in which we allow the unrestricted display of everything that is legal and include disclaimers that we are not intended as a children's site and that adults should make careful use of their own judgement about letting their children read Wikipedia. It is not our responsibility. 2012/2/9 Andreas K. <[email protected]> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:52 AM, M. Williamson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, and some people don't like the fact that we tell the truth about, > say, > > the Taiwan situation (or at least we try our very best to), or the > > Tienanmen Square protests of 1989. > > > > > So if members of the public looking for a sound file of tolling bells in > Commons get > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Masturbation_Techniques_-_tolling_of_the_bells_(animated).gif > as > their first search hit in Commons, this somehow strikes a blow for freedom > in the way our coverage of the Tiananmen Square protests does? > > > > > > I think it's very stupid to equate "people don't like this" to "this is a > > problem". > > > > So yes, the situation is still unchanged, but in my opinion it is a GOOD > > thing that it's still unchanged. The advertising situation on Wikipedia > is > > "still unchanged", but unchanged situations don't have to be bad, and in > > this case I am a firm believer that the status quo is far better than > what > > this woman (and many image filter proposals) is proposing. > > > > > > 2012/2/2 Andreas K. <[email protected]> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:35:10 +0000, "Andreas K." <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > A Wikimedian has just started a Facebook page "Stop pornography on > > > > > Wikipedia" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-pornography-on-Wikipedia/307245972661745 > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I read it correct, she opened a Facebook group since, as she > states, > > > > she could not find anybody on Wikipedia who would share her opinion. > I > > do > > > > not see why we should worry about this. There are many people with > > their > > > > own agenda who could not find anybody on Wikipedia to share their > > agenda > > > > and go to promote it elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it's relevant to the extent that she came across a masturbation > > video > > > while looking for something completely different. (I think she said she > > was > > > looking up "roll over".) Some people don't like that. It's a problem > > we've > > > discussed before: > > > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Controversial_content/Problems > > > > > > The situation is still unchanged. > > > > > > A. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > foundation-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
