tor, 01 06 2006 kl. 16:27 +0300, skrev Baris Cicek: > Actually, it should be someone who is able to detect possible obstacles > that put Asians or Women out of GNOME (or in general Free Software). I > doubt that anyone have any emprical study about that. But is it harsh > and rude behavior of developers or the community? Or technical limits? > Or even communication problems? (ie. English knowledge or something). > > First thing is to come up with a reasonable problems that new comers > would come across. And later people should follow a pathway to get rid > of these obstacles. > > Actually Code of Conduct may only be successful for new comers if we > detect those problems correctly. > > For that reason, ideas of the fresh community members is more important. > If you're experienced then either you did not have any problem or you > might even forgot those problems you'd encountered in past. Though, you > might still remember old days, but chances are low. > > IMHO, Code Of Conduct (or GNOME Ethics) should be written for that very > reason. Experienced members of the community might and would forget the > problems for newcomers. Something should remind them. > > But still first thing to do is to detect obstacles first. Else, outcome > of this work, won't get further than saying "Be nice to each other" with > rhetoric.
I agree. A question is when do you feel you belong to the GNOME community? When there is a critical mass that is just like you and when you feel comfortable that a larger group share your way of thinking and ways of communicating? Anne > > > On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 09:05 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > On 6/1/06, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Luis Villa wrote: > > > > Such a plan should be written by someone who has actually been > > > > involved in IRC, our mailing lists, bugzilla, etc., *as a developer*- > > > > which, sorry, isn't Anne. It will not work if it is not driven by > > > > someone with such experience. > > > > > > That's not so. There's nothing preventing someone who isn't a developer > > > from comping up with a credible strategy for getting more women involved > > > in GNOME (although that's totally off-topic to the code of conduct > > > discussion). Any such plan would have to appeal to geek women - so who's > > > better placed to come up with a plan? A male geek or a female non-geek? > > > > A female geek? > > > > Luis > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-list mailing list > > foundation-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list