<quote who="Luis Villa"> > I also still think it is a pretty bad idea
I'd like to find out why people think it's a bad idea, when I think the idea has been pretty soundly proven as good by the Ubuntu community (albeit, the CoC was part of the Ubuntu community's creation, but I thinke everyone is being realistic about the fact that this is something we're introducing). > with little-to-no proof of the existence of the problems *in our > community* that it purports to solve I'm not sure it was suggested to solve a particular social problem in the community (because while we have some behavioural problems, they're not at all crippling the project in any way) but in a somewhat metatastic fashion, it was suggested to solve the problem that we don't have a CoC. :-) This of course depends on whether you see inherent value in documenting our shared values - I do, and I think Murray does. > and less existence of proof that it will actually solve the problems Creating a CoC will solve the problem of not having a CoC. :-) > Furthermore, I think the proposal ignores the costs of raising barriers to > entry to our existing community (both real and perceived). But it seems > clear that the people pushing this forward are determined to ignore such > objections, so I've shut up. Why do you think a statement of expectation and intent will be a barrier to entry for our existing community? It's not like this is rules, it's more about shared values, which are extremely important in a project like ours, particularly as we scale up. I think it has been altogether too conservative myself. As an aside, it was never intended to be "legislation" or "rules", and every time it's painted as such, it says more about the poster's attitude than the CoC's intent (not that you have done so in this mail, but others have done so recently on the list). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ "Love never misses the chance to put the boot in." - Kelly, SLOU _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list