On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:41 PM, john palmieri > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The one thing we have made clear to our Advisory Board is we do not want > > this to be an excuse for companies to invest less in either events. That > > would be disastrous. > > Sure, but who talked about getting less corporate money? In fact it > would be reasonable to get more since in terms of marketing and > awareness > > (GUADEC + aKademy) > GUADEC + aKademy > > Let's look at the numbers. > > GUADEC and aKademy have very similar sponsorship schemes, which is > unsurprising considering that both marketing teams have been > collaborating on this topic since 2006. See > http://dot.kde.org/1205342263/ (I could only find GUADEC 2008 brochure > in an attachment). > > GUADEC Cornerstone = aKademy Platinum = 25.000€ > Gold is same in both = 15.000€ > Silver is same in both = 5.000€ > aKademy has also Bronze = 1.000€ > > Do the math and put 3 levels at 50.000€, 30.000€ and... 5.000€ > > Looking at the past editions of both events, reasonable candidates for > a Gold are Nokia, Novell, Canonical the Linux Foundation and perhaps > Google. One of them to be pushed to the top level. There are some > GUADEC silvers that could be tempted to upgrade to gold. > > The current Silvers come mainly from the GNOME side, which makes sense > due to the decentralized corporate nature of the GNOME project. This > is why I'm suggsting to keep Silver at 5000€ or do an upgrade to 6000€ > at most in exchange of a much higher visibility. In fact many of these > companies work on components compatible with KDE technologies and/or > in the freedesktop.org domain. > > It would be also reasonable to think that more silvers might appear > since we are getting more new ones in every GUADEC and most of the > current sponsors repeat. The whole mobile stuff might bring new names > e.g. those around the LiMo foundation. > > Conclusion: same or more money to be invested with less organizational > costs (thanks to sharing instead of doubling overheads) --> more money > to sponsor contributors from more remote places and work better on the > social side of the events. > > > > This is not a joint event. The GNOME Board and KDE eV > > agreed on this with the understanding that we are co-located, not one > > conference. Some details can be shared but most of it should be treated > as > > we just happen to show up at the same time and place. Its buisness as > usual > > for the most part. If we wanted a joint conference we would have just > > thrown a Freedesktop.org event. > > For what we have seen in this thread there are some coincident > opinions among the coordinators of GUADEC 2006 and 2007 + the main > hunter of sponsors and keynotes in the past years (Baris is excused > for being afk). There must be something to consider here. >
KDE was even more wary than we were about changing the culture of our flagship conferences. Let us not rush into things because this is what some people think they want. Lets make this event work and then if it is successful we can talk about more integration in the future. If people push too hard and the conference is not a success you can be sure there will never be another conference like it again. If it is a success you can be sure we will look to do similar events which will have the potential to push the bar a little further. This is what both KDE and GNOME agreed to going into the event. Switching it up on us now means stepping on the understanding that allowed us to make this landmark decision. We still have a year to go and one or the other groups may opt to back out if they feel there is somehow a breach in that understanding. Please be patient and help to implement the conferences as it was conceived. -- John
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