I do agree that we need a vision and a long term roadmap.

When I ask about goals or vision, most people respond with something very
specific and technical. I feel like we need to have a bigger vision that is
universally shared.

Where will GNOME be in 5 years? What will it do? What products/projects will
be a part of it? Who will be using it? What world problem will it have
solved?

Stormy

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Alberto Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2010/2/22 Dave Neary <[email protected]>:
> > Have we lost the mobile battle? It certainly appears that GTK+ has lost
> > the mobile battle, but all of the hard work that GNOME hackers have put
> > into the middleware platform and components like Gstreamer, Dbus,
> > Telepathy and Pulseaudio are now cornerstone parts of both the free
> > desktop and the mobile platform.
> >
> > I would agree that the GNOME GUI platform is not exciting application
> > developers right now, and that's something we need to fix. And it's not
> > an easy problem.
>
> I'd like to add a bit of an optimistic overtone here.
>
> GTK+ might not be exciting for mobile developers, but I don't think
> none of the companies "supporting it" were seriously pushing the
> toolkit into that direction rather than monkey patching it to make it
> work well enough. So I'd say that GTK+ has gained very little in that
> regard as all this time it's mostly RedHat supporting the
> maintainership weight of the stack and the ones pushing it forward as
> a company over the years.
>
> However, GTK+ is still the de-facto toolkit for the X.org platform,
> people aiming to write apps that integrates well with the Linux
> desktop, choose GTK+, sure it has many issues, but it has also many
> great things and a rock solid code base.
>
> In a broader sense, I think that maybe we should put back our focus on
> promoting the stack as what it really has been and still is for most
> people, a platform to create great desktop applications for the Linux
> platform.
>
> --
> Un saludo,
> Alberto Ruiz
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