On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 6:36 AM Benjamin Berg <benja...@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> Hi Philip, > > On Tue, 2019-06-11 at 11:56 +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-06-06 at 11:20 -0700, Philip Chimento via foundation-list > > wrote: > > > If elected to the board, how would you help to build trust and > > > collaborative working relationships among the directors, and encourage > > > healthy debate? > > I think this is a great question for all the candidates and I would be > > delighted to read statements of candidates who want to position > > themselves. > > I don't particularly like bringing this up again, however, I do find it > sad that you never responded to this question. I saw no purpose in that. > Also, I was surprised to > see that the archives have been updated recently but no public > statement has been made yet. > I am not intending to make any public statement. The board decided to make this change as a result of a private conversation with a person who was involved in that discussion, who intended that it be resolved without making a fuss. To be specific you updated the minutes of 2018-05-29 on the 2019-07-08 > adding[1]: > > """ > * Code of conduct approval (Alexandre) > * Alexandre wants to have on the record that he disagrees with how > the board approved the CoC > """ > > In contrast, your original summary on foundation-list read: > > """ > […], I am clarifying explicitly in this addendum that Alexandre Franke > was not present at the above board meeting (see list of attendees), and > that in the following board meeting he went on the record stating that > he disagreed with the outcome of the above votes. > """[2], similar during the 2018-10-09 Board meeting [3] > > Now. What strikes me is that this was a considerable misrepresentation > of what Alexandre said at the time, and the possibility of exactly such > a misrepresentation was a major concern in the discussion[4]. It may > appear like be a detail at first, but the fact that Alexandre voiced > his disagreement with *how* the vote happened and not with the > *outcome* of the vote is a fundamental difference. From his own > statement, we do not know whether or not Alexandre agrees with the > outcome. > That was how I read it at the time. I think the interpretation that I initially assumed is a reasonable interpretation of those words. I agree that yours is, too. I do not intend to argue about the meanings of words. I myself have no clue what Alexandre meant, as I was not part of the board when that discussion took place. Also honestly I don't care. The full extent of my involvement is that I inherited this action item from the 2017–2018 board. Now, I do believe that mistakes like this can and do happen. But > considering the situation, do you think that Alexandre or any other > foundation member have grounds to trust you? > I don't get to decide whether people have grounds to trust me. People make up their own minds. But this insinuation is ridiculous. -- Philip
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