On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:16:38AM -0800, F. David Sinn wrote:

> Anyone have a good recommendation for code to run on BigIron 4000's to 
> support IPv6?
> 
> We've been looking at 7.7.02, but have seen some stability issues with 
> it, so thought it might be good to ask others who may be running other 
> versions.

Does 7.7.02 support IPv6 then ? We are currently running 7.7.01, but
there's no IPv6 support in that release.

If there is going to be an IPv6 software release from foundry anytime
soon we will only use it if it has decent OSPF and BGP support for IPv6

-- 
Cliff Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Dec 10 16:12:11 2004
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James MacDonald)
Date: Fri Dec 10 16:12:19 2004
Subject: [f-nsp] Rate-limit issues ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

anyone ever have an issue where you set the rate-limit committed rate to a 
value but only get 1/2 that value in testing? We have tried on several 
bandwidth settings ... always only get 1/2 (exactly) of the configured value.
 
NetIron Stackable ver 07.1.26T13
 
thanks,
 
Jim


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Rodger)
Date: Fri Dec 10 16:31:25 2004
Subject: [f-nsp] V6 code suggestion
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Cliff Albert wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:16:38AM -0800, F. David Sinn wrote:
>
> > Anyone have a good recommendation for code to run on BigIron 4000's to
> > support IPv6?
> >
> > We've been looking at 7.7.02, but have seen some stability issues with
> > it, so thought it might be good to ask others who may be running other
> > versions.
>
> Does 7.7.02 support IPv6 then ? We are currently running 7.7.01, but
> there's no IPv6 support in that release.
>
> If there is going to be an IPv6 software release from foundry anytime
> soon we will only use it if it has decent OSPF and BGP support for IPv6

It's supported in 7.7.02 and above, most features on jetcore
only. Like you, we're running 7.7.01 in production, and have briefly
played with 7.8.00b on our development systems.

It appears that 7.7.02 also has support for RIPng, OSPFv3, BGP4+.

There's a new V6 configuration manual - see
http://www.foundrynet.com/services/documentation/srIPv6/index.html


Bruce.
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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Dec 15 08:34:29 2004
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Willingham)
Date: Wed Dec 15 08:34:38 2004
Subject: [f-nsp] Radius and privilege/access levels.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am attempting to setup a radius auth server, question I have is what
reply-attr/check-attrs do I need to send from my radius server in
order to utilize the privileges inside of the switch.  I am able to
authenticate and login, but I never get the access levels that I have
set in radius once logged in, I simply get the default level.


I am using freeradius as the radius server, and as I said the auth
works fine, I am just unsure of the format/contents of the reply-attrs
that need to be sent to the FastIrons/ServerIrons etc.

If anyone has any information regarding this I would be exceedingly
appreciative.


Thanks and have a Wonderful day.

John W.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Dec 15 23:00:38 2004
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Brewer)
Date: Wed Dec 15 23:01:23 2004
Subject: [f-nsp] Rate limiting on Foundry switches
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm working on an upgrade of our colocation Ethernet infrastructure, and one 
thing I would like to be able to do is rate limit customers to a particular 
speed with a granularity of 1 Mbit/s. I want it to work as close as possible 
to a virtual communications link of the specified speed. For example, an 
interface limited to 3 Mbit/s should act like a pair of bonded T1s even 
though it is actually running over a 100BaseT full duplex interface. 
Apparently this is hard to do, since the only hardware I have seen that can 
do this well is Cisco IOS's rate-limit and traffic-shape.

Anyway, our local Foundry reps said that the Foundry FastIron Edge Switch 
(FES) could do rate limiting. I configured a FES4802 and found that the 
"fixed rate-limiting" it supports was unacceptable. Using iperf, I was unable 
to get TCP performance close to the configured rate, and it got worse as I 
increased the configured rate-limit.

Next I tried the FastIron 4802 (FWS4802) that supports "adaptive rate 
limiting". Unfortunately, it also did not perform acceptably. Using iperf to 
test, for TCP traffic I would see substantially lower throughput than the 
configured rate. For example for a configured rate of 6 Mbit/s I would see 
3.2 Mbit/s. Doing UDP tests with iperf showed the expected behavior: 
throughput that closely tracked the configured rate.

It looks like the algorithm the Foundry stuff uses to rate limit hoses TCP 
performance, presumably because it drops packets in ways that upset the TCP 
flow control methods.

Has anyone gotten acceptable performance for rate limiting from Foundry 
hardware for this kind of application? If not, any suggestions on hardware 
that does get this right? Mahalo!
-- 
Robert Brewer                                              ph: 808-532-8246
Assistant Manager, System Department                      fax: 808-532-8246
LavaNet, Inc.                                              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Dec 16 00:01:40 2004
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David J. Hughes)
Date: Thu Dec 16 00:01:56 2004
Subject: [f-nsp] Rate limiting on Foundry switches
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I've never tried this with Foundries so can' help with any input there. 
  However, in a previous life, my company delivered rate limited 
ethernet services in several corporate office buildings.  That was with 
low end Cisco switches.  We were happy with the performance.  The key 
was to ensure that there was some burst available.

The info below was floated around recently on the Cisco-NSP mailing 
list for applying a consistent 4mbps CAR setup.  Perhaps the logic can 
be applied to the Foundry.


                The following line produces a razor sharp 4 meg chart.

                rate-limit input 4000000 6000000 12000000 conform-action 
transmit
                exceed-action drop

                Value 1. bits per second
                Value 2. Normal burst bytes = bits per second * 1.5
                Value 3. Maximum burst bytes = normal burst bytes * 2


Hope that helps

David
...



On 16/12/2004, at 2:00 PM, Robert Brewer wrote:

> I'm working on an upgrade of our colocation Ethernet infrastructure, 
> and one thing I would like to be able to do is rate limit customers to 
> a particular speed with a granularity of 1 Mbit/s. I want it to work 
> as close as possible to a virtual communications link of the specified 
> speed. For example, an interface limited to 3 Mbit/s should act like a 
> pair of bonded T1s even though it is actually running over a 100BaseT 
> full duplex interface. Apparently this is hard to do, since the only 
> hardware I have seen that can do this well is Cisco IOS's rate-limit 
> and traffic-shape.
>
> Anyway, our local Foundry reps said that the Foundry FastIron Edge 
> Switch (FES) could do rate limiting. I configured a FES4802 and found 
> that the "fixed rate-limiting" it supports was unacceptable. Using 
> iperf, I was unable to get TCP performance close to the configured 
> rate, and it got worse as I increased the configured rate-limit.
>
> Next I tried the FastIron 4802 (FWS4802) that supports "adaptive rate 
> limiting". Unfortunately, it also did not perform acceptably. Using 
> iperf to test, for TCP traffic I would see substantially lower 
> throughput than the configured rate. For example for a configured rate 
> of 6 Mbit/s I would see 3.2 Mbit/s. Doing UDP tests with iperf showed 
> the expected behavior: throughput that closely tracked the configured 
> rate.
>
> It looks like the algorithm the Foundry stuff uses to rate limit hoses 
> TCP performance, presumably because it drops packets in ways that 
> upset the TCP flow control methods.
>
> Has anyone gotten acceptable performance for rate limiting from 
> Foundry hardware for this kind of application? If not, any suggestions 
> on hardware that does get this right? Mahalo!
> -- 
> Robert Brewer                                              ph: 
> 808-532-8246
> Assistant Manager, System Department                      fax: 
> 808-532-8246
> LavaNet, Inc.                                              
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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