Ok, but that is the diference between using a firewall and an ACL on a
switch/router.
A firewall builds a session-cache, which you really do not want the
switch/router to do, especially when a lot of traffic is going through them.
Strictly speaking, your TCP ACL does block non-established traffic, but will
allow DDoS traffic when it spoofs "established" TCP traffic, which a firewall
wouldn't.
I'm afraid all you can do is ACL based on source and destination for UDP, and
create a similar "smaller" hole like you did for TCP.
For additional security a device like a firewall is required.
Greetings,
Diederik
On 1 Apr 2011, at 02:47 , David Miller wrote:
> On 3/31/11 5:06 PM, David Miller wrote:
>
>
> To those who kindly reminded me that UDP is stateless, thank you.
>
> I know UDP is stateless. Firewalls, however, keep track of UDP packets sent
> - for short periods - so that packets can be returned. DNS, voip, and other
> applications would break if the firewall didn't do this.
>
> That's how I'd like snmp to work here: snmp server on the secure network
> selects a random port, sends a UDP packet from that port to the monitored
> system on 161. Then the SI should know to allow the returned packet through.
> Instead, the packets get blocked going back to the random port.
>
> Sorry to not communicate this clearly the first time:)
>
> --- David
>
>
>
>> Serveriron running 10.2.01oTI4
>>
>> My setup is a more secure layer with utilities and databases, and a layer
>> for the boxes that have to talk to the 'net.
>>
>> I currently have an ACL that lets a more-secure box establish TCP
>> connections to the less secure layer:
>>
>> permit tcp 192.168.120.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.140.0 0.0.0.255 established
>>
>>
>> I'm installing SNMP now, and would like to have the equivalent rule for UDP
>> - IE, any host on the more secure layer able to send UDP packets and get the
>> response back. I tried this:
>>
>> permit udp 192.168.120.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.140.0 0.0.0.255 established
>>
>> and it doesn't raise any syntax errors, but it doesn't allow packets to
>> return to the snmp box.
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --- David
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