Yes, you lose redundancy.

No, there is no other mechanism than to have the two CBLI's married.

If you have CBLIs dropping out, you need to examine your network design and
loading.


Regards,

Alex Johnson
The Foxboro Company
10707 Haddington
Houston, TX 77043
713.722.2859 (v)
713.722.2700 (sb)
713.932.0222 (f)
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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Daren Bishop [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
        Sent:   Thursday, June 01, 2000 5:56 PM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re[3]: AB station 

             Alex,
             
             If you do that you lose FT!?! Is there a way to run two
separate 
             "unmarried" with "parallel" paths and one be a "back-up" for
the 
             other? (Not true FT but redundant.)
             
             Regards,
             
             Daren Bishop
             Process Engineer
             Ameripol/Synpol Corp.
             [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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        Subject: RE: RE: AB station 
        Author:  "Foxboro DCS Mail List"
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        Date:    6/1/00 4:36 PM


        Typically, the major load driven "failure" mode for a CBLAN is that
the 
        backup and the primary will not stay married. Removing one causes
that 
        problem to cease and frees up more time for the CBLAN that remains
since it 
        does not have to talk to its mate.
             
        As for monitoring the CBLAN or Nodebus, I'm not aware of any
standard 
        Foxboro supplied solutions - at the moment.
             
        However, you can by Ethernet LAN analyzer equipment and use it to
monitor 
        the traffic. This is not what you want really, I know, but...
             
             
        Regards,
             
        Alex Johnson
        The Foxboro Company
        10707 Haddington
        Houston, TX 77043
        713.722.2859 (v)
        713.722.2700 (sb)
        713.932.0222 (f)
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                -----Original Message-----
                From:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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                Sent:        Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:23 PM
                To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Cc:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Subject:        Re: RE: AB station
             
                Alex
             
                We have a Foxwatch aggrement at the plant, and I will be
getting
        them to
                log in to look at the LAN loading as soon possible. Is there
a way
        that it
                can be set up so that the loading of the LAN and the node
bus
        traffic can
                be monitored for the system at the plant. This would be good
so that
        I may
                be able to identify a possible cause of a load surge that
could be 
                knocking out the AB Stations.
                Last tuesday we had a power dip at the plant and both the AB
        stations did
                not miss a beat, the only change was that one of the ZLAN
modules
        out by
                the Stations was pulled out. This seems to help the stations
to stay
        on
                line or reset them selves. Is there any obvious reason for
this.
             
                Chris Little
                Blue Circle Roberta
             
             
                [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: 
                >Chris,
                >
                >It sounds as if your CBLAN is overloaded. There are a
variety of
        reasons
                >that this can occur and there is at least one QF that
reallocates
        the
                >buffers in the CBLAN to make them more efficient. 
                >
                >I suggest that you call TAC (888.FOXBORO) and ask to talk
to
        someone that
                >understands CBLAN loading. If you have a FoxWatch
agreement, they
        can log
                >in
                >and take some measurements. If you do not, you could
arrange from
        them to
                >send someone to take the measurements locally for analysis.

                >
                >
                >
                >
                >Regards,
                >
                >Alex Johnson
                >The Foxboro Company
                >10707 Haddington
                >Houston, TX 77043
                >713.722.2859 (v)
                >713.722.2700 (sb)
                >713.932.0222 (f)
                >[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
                >
                >
                >        -----Original Message-----
                >        From:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
                >        Sent:        Monday, May 29, 2000 10:36 PM
                >        To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                >        Cc:        [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                >        Subject:        Re: AB station
                >
                >        Problems with AB Stations, where do I start? 
                >
                >        We have six AB Stations in total and two of the six
give
        continual
                >        problems, so much so that we are currently in the
process of
        looking
                >in to
                >        changing them for integrator 30 modules with KF2
comms
        cards. Both
                >        stations periodically go in to fault, one of them
reboots it
        self
                >most of
                >        the time, the other at the moment needs to be
initialised
        before if
                >can be
                >        restarted, but to do this you have to copy the
.init file to
        the .UC
                >file
                >        then reboot the station, then go in to the ICC and
        initialise it and
                >then
                >        reload the compounds. Foxboro have said they think
it may be
        a
                >problem
                >        with one of the compounds which stops it
reloading???? but
        have not
                >found
                >        out what.
                >        The overall problem is possibly node bus traffic,
which
        causes one
                >or both
                >        of the stations to go in to fault. To add more
confusion,
        these AB
                >        stations are at the other end of a fault tolerant
LAN (ZLAN)
        which
                >also
                >        unmarries itself now and then, but one thing I did
find was
        that
                >when On
                >        of the AB stations faulted last week, I tried to do
a manual
        reboot
                >but
                >        that failed twice, I then removed one of the LAN
cards and
        rebooted
                >the
                >        station and it came back straight away.
                >        Has anyone had experience of this and can give some
advice,
        or does
                >anyone
                >        know of a way of displaying the level of node bus
traffic on
        screen
                >so
                >        that I can monitor it. Foxwatch can determne it but
seem
        reluctant
                >to tell
                >        me how.
                >
                >        Chris Little
                >        Blue Circle Cement
                >        Roberta, AL
                >
                >
                >        [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet
writes:
                >        >In our plant, we use two Allen Bradley stations
connected
        to
                >PLC5/40.
                >        >The last week, the stations crashed a few times
with
        following
                >error
                >        >message:
                >        >
                >        >Process=smat_apname
                >        >IPC     -01041 message could not be delivered to
        destination.
                >        >
                >        >We were not able to reboot the stations with Sys
Mgmt. . We
        had to
                >        >hardware
                >        >reboot them.
                >        >
                >        >Has somebody experience with that problem ? 
                >        >
                >        >Jef
                >        >
                >        >
                >        
             
        

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