I have found that the free 'top' tool (precompiled binaries for Solaris
should be available in the Internet) is _very_ useful for such
investigations since its columns are updated automatically.  It also
provides an option to save this data to a file for a specified amount of
time.

Regards,
Sascha Wildner


----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnson,Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Foxboro DCS Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: How do I turn off swap


> ps -el gives a column that shows current memory size (SZ)
>
> * run it today: ps -ef >/opt/ps.10.10
> * run it again tomorrow: ps -ef >/opt/ps.10.11
> * sort them both: sort -o ps.10.10 ps.10.10 ; sort -o ps.10.11
> ps.10.11
> * compare the results: diff ps.10.11 ps.10.10
>
> Look for changes in the SZ column.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex Johnson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Jirik [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:50 AM
> To: Foxboro DCS Mail List
> Subject: RE: How do I turn off swap
>
> Hello,
>
> You might want to make sure a third party program is not
> leaking memory and consuming your swap space.
>
> Watch programs memory usage over the period in question
> and see if this might be the problem.
>
>
> At 02:37 PM 10/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>
>
> Hello
>
> While Alex is right that having more memory is
> almost always a good thing, I am confused by
> the results stated.
>
> Unused processes always get paged out of main
> memory (a good thing).  Disk thrashing after
> this point points to applications that are
> memory intensive.  Vanilla I/A ships with
> plenty of memory resources to its job
> under normal circumstances.  When adding third
> party applications, you will need to do some
> basic system administration to verify the
> system.  Alex pointed you at vmstat to monitor
> disk i/o.  Another command that I use a lot
> is "swap -s" which gives the total virtual memory usage.
> Doing this before and after an application startup
> gives a relative feel for the cost of that application.
>
> Can you run this command and tell us what your
> situation is ?
>
> If you take away swap space and you are have quieted
> down the disk drive then I suggest that you may
> have an application (or several) that are no longer
> running that you may not know about.  Offline, Alex
> suggests that you run a "ps" command before and
> after the removal of swap space to verify no
> lost processes.
>
> Another reason for excess disk traffic are applications
> that write to /tmp (logfiles etc.).  You may
> wish to do a "ls -lart /tmp" to see what the newest
> files are in this directory and maybe by the name
> determine the application that is using this.
>
>
>
>
>
> Three words:
>
> Buy more RAM.
>
>
> If vmstat reports lots of page faults, you need more
> RAM.
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
>
>         I have processes running on a AW51E (Ultra
> 30) that drop into
>         virtual memory several days after boot.
> They then consume the
>         machine with lots of disk thrashing.  I've
> experimented with
>         vfstab and /sbin/swapadd, and eliminated
> swap.  This stops the
>         disk thrashing, but it left me with a /tmp
> directory that is
>         small and completely memory-based.  I'm
> wondering if I should
>         further modify /etc/vfstab, and mount /tmp
> to /dev/md/dsk/d1?
>         If anyone has more expert knowledge on how
> to go about this,
>         I'd appreciate the help.
>
>
>
>
>
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