Hi everyone, I had the opportunity to try the Diamond FX product this last weekend. The distributor, Elena Bonifaz, for the Western region worked with me at the Susan G Komen Race for the Cure in Temecula, CA this last Sunday, wonderful lady by the way. I was really interested in the neon colors as the Wolfe brand is very transparent. The Diamond brand is a lot more intense in color and covers in one brush stroke as opposed to the other. Yes it's the same manufacture making the products, but each company can request changes to their product. It just so happens that Diamond is working on getting us a better product(s) at better prices. If you have questions, just contact the company!!! www.diamondfx.biz
In regard to the Wolfe boys, I had the amazing opportunity to attend one of their workshops a few months ago and these two talented men conducted themselves as true professionals and with great integrity. They have a lot going on with their legal issues, most of which we are not privy to, but what I do know is that there are times when you let another company in to finance your dreams and goals for your existing company you take a huge chance that you will lose control of the existing company and pushed out little by little. I worked for a great company here in California and saw it happen first hand. It's about greed and power. No one wins in these situations. These two guys walked away from a company bearing their name to maintain their professional credibility and personal integrity. They do not speak ill of the other parties and plan on continuing being the amazing artists and human beings that they are. Of course they are not happy about the situation, who wouldn't be, but please do not cast stones when you don't have all the info, which we have really no business wanting/needing to know. Buy the products you feel most comfortable with and keep on keeping on! I'm sure Brian and Nick would tell you the same! Anabel Rodas http://www.myspace.com/bananasforscraps http://www.myspace.com/bananasforfacepainting --- On Wed, 10/22/08, jacklyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: jacklyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [fpba-assn] Re: Diamond FX To: "Face Painting and Body Art Association" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 4:07 AM Wait a minute: why its so populair in Europe??????? We can't buy Wolf anymore, thats why, The company who is pushing Diamont FX is not allowing any Wolf on the market anymore. He can do that because he also is the importer of Wolf.He supported Nick and Brian financialy in bringing Diamont FX on the market here, even went with them to China. And everybody who has been in Seeboden will have seen the posters saying Diamont FX formaly Wolf whit their work (paintings) right beside it. So do not be fooled by what is going on here. Diamont FX is way cheaper over here and is sold of even on the websites as Diamont FX formaly known as Wolf FX. The Wolf brothers are, atleast here, strongly connected to the name diamont FX. I do see and feel a difference in the two paints and I have gotten al my diamont FX out of my kit because of it and will not buy it anymore, it covers badly, you have to use a lot to make it cover without blotches.Atleast some of the colors like blue. I have been working for several companys throughout the years who sell their product to other brands ( like Mars and a coekiecompany called Jamin) and they never use excactly the same ingredients. Simply because that specific mixure of ingrediences is sold to Wolf . No two brands of the same factory under different names will ever be excactly the same, no matter what they say. On Sep 29, 2:40 am, sabrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with both of you too... > Luther, > You can visit Diamond FX website:www.diamondfx.biz > There are several photos of the Wolfe brothers in there. If you have > trust in these great artists, do you think they would allow a company > without an FDA approval to associate them with their product? > Everyone that has seen them recently say that they support and even > carry themselves some of the product. Do you think they would put > their reputation and their students in jeopardy? If you want to stick > to the original product, be my guest, but don't throw dirt to a new > company that is starting. Have you even asked yourself, why is it that > the brothers left the company? Why are they themselves being sued by > Wolfe FX? Why is Diamond FX so popular in Europe? I believe that > although we are artists, we are pretty smart, and we can tell when > something is good and where to find a product even if someone > supposedly tries to "steal" a maket. My suggestion Luther and > everyone else: visit the website, try the product. Then make your own > decision. > > Sabrina > > On Sep 28, 9:50 am, Tickled Pink Face Painting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Well said Shannon, > > > As usual you are spot on! You have explained this very well. I > > totally agree with you, I will use any and all safe products that > > work. We all have our preference based on performance, smell, price > > etc but Diamond FX and Wolfe FX are in fact the same thing. The wolfe > > brothers (as of last week) were not pushing one product over another > > their exact words were all of the professional face paints work and > > you should use what works best for you. Given their legal situation I > > found them to be professional with great integrity. > > > Nina Grevillewww.TickledPinkFacePainting.com > > 714 777 6165 > > > On Sep 26, 5:40 pm, "Shannon, In the Great White North (Canada eh!)" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First of all the make-up that is sold as Wolfe FX and Diamond FX is > > > all manufactured in China by a company called Lucky Art. Lucky Art > > > makes face paint and painting crayons and lord knows what else. They > > > sell many items under their own brand name LUCKY ART throughout Asia > > > and some in Australia at one time. > > > > They sell the face paint and other items that the make to ANYONE who > > > wants to buy them wholesale. Therefore both Wolfe FX and Diamond FX > > > are coming from the same plant, packaged by the same equipment and > > > probably, I assume, made with exactly the same ingredients... the > > > approvals of the FDA and any other organizations are the resposibility > > > of the retailers in their jurisdictions... therefore Wolfe would have > > > to submit to the FDA to get it cleared by them, and Diamond FX if > > > based in the Netherlands would have to submit to the EU, etc.etc. > > > etc. Rules in the USA and Europe, and in Canada, for that matter, are > > > different so items approved in one area may not be in another - it > > > does not mean they are not safe, it means that the regulations differ > > > (for example, in the UK they do not have blue smarties like we do in > > > Canada because of something called an E-Number... so I send my friend > > > Anne care packages of blue smarties!!) > > > > This product is not proprietary to Wolfe or Diamond or anyone else > > > selling it. The manufacturer in CHINA, Lucky Art, is the one who owns > > > it and sells it to anyone who wants to re-sell it. > > > > As I have said, repeatedly, I have both and I see absolutely no > > > difference in the product. And I will continue to purchase whichever > > > is convenient and less expensive for me to acquire. What the > > > companies are doing business wise and who is their front man or men > > > makes no difference to me. > > > > Shannonwww.shannonfennell.com-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Face Painting and Body Art Association." This is a PG-13 forum dedicated to the discussion of Face Painting and Body Art. This group is provided for the benefit of all and as such is not moderated. 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