On 30.12.2010 20:02, Dimitri Smits wrote:

----- "Jonas Maebe" <[email protected]> schreef:
 >
 >
On 21 Dec 2010, at 00:16, Jonas Maebe wrote:

    On 20 Dec 2010, at 21:37, Sven Barth wrote:
     >
     >

        - should abstract methods be forbidden?


     > Yes, since
     > a) they are virtual
     > b) even if it were possible to have virtual methods, there would
    be no way to override them with implementations that do something
    (since you cannot inherit from a class helper)
     >


 >
Actually, it seems that inheritance is in fact allowed for Delphi-style
class helpers: http://qc.embarcadero.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=76577 (it's
not for Objective-C categories). But I'm still quite sure you cannot do
anything that requires changes to the VMT of the helped class.

 >
There are also at some extra checks that must be added for
constructors/destructors introduced via class helpers
(Objective-C/Pascal doesn't have constructors or destructors, so it
doesn't matter there):
*
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/E2295_A_class_helper_cannot_introduce_a_destructor_(Delphi)
<http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/E2295_A_class_helper_cannot_introduce_a_destructor_%28Delphi%29>
*
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/E2296_A_constructor_introduced_in_a_class_helper_must_call_the_parameterless_constructor_of_the_helped_class_as_the_first_statement_(Delphi)
<http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/E2296_A_constructor_introduced_in_a_class_helper_must_call_the_parameterless_constructor_of_the_helped_class_as_the_first_statement_%28Delphi%29>
*
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/E2358_Class_constructors_not_allowed_in_class_helpers_(Delphi)
<http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/E2358_Class_constructors_not_allowed_in_class_helpers_%28Delphi%29>

 >

hi,

it seems that the virtual methods can be overridden (AOP style) using
the TVirtualMethodInterceptor that comes with Delphi XE. It can also be
on a per instance base (as opposed to on a per type) if I've read up on
it correctly.

I'd say that would be a better candidate for that purpose/intent/use case.

I don't know whether I understand you right, but we aren't talking about how we should allow the override of virtual methods, but about what Delphi allows regarding class helpers and what not, so we can have a as compatible as possible implementation in FPC.

Regards,
Sven
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