waldo kitty wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:46 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
waldo kitty wrote:
i'm not sure this is the proper area for this... if it is not, please point me
to the proper list...

i've a ubuntu system that i'm trying to run fp on... X does *not* start
automatically... i'm working from the virtual console(s) 99% of the time... what i'm seeing and trying to solve is the frames in fp are showing up as diamond characters... after i got the help stuff loading properly, i noted that when i switched away from the editor frame, it showed the single line frame characters and the help frame was all diamonds... closing the help and
returning to the editor switched the editor frame back to diamonds...

There might be something related to the locale command relevant to this. As a quick test I've just fired up fp on a Debian (non-x86) console and framing etc.
was OK, I see LANG set to en_GB.UTF-8

yeah, i'm in the US... i did post the two settings i saw from the environment that i thought were important... what other environment settings may affect this?

Frankly, I don't know. I do a lot of shell stuff, but it's almost always within Konsole (on KDE, Xfce etc.) and often over ssh since this combination gives me cut-and-paste etc.

I'm uneasy about things like console and X codepages, and the corresponding keyboard mappings. One problem is that when they're changed they tend to be system-wide, another is that things like available founts and codepages can depend on how much of X11 has been installed. Put another way, your console
might be broken /because/ X isn't installed, not /despite/ it.

actually, X is installed but not running... i'm on tty1 - tty6... if i type "startx" then X starts up but the machine only has 512M RAM and cannot handle any more... i had 768M in it and on boot it says that 512M is the max so i pulled the other 256M and put it to use elsewhere... with only 512M of RAM, it is slower than molasses in mid-winter :( so, i use the plain non-GUI local console for most work i do on it...

Try using Xfce or another "lightweight" desktop, and try using a non-composting UI (the poor performance might be because your 3D acceleration isn't working).

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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