Hi everyone,

I have a question when it comes to optimising memory reads and writes.  What are the rules for FPC when it comes to writing to memory and then reading from it later within a single subroutine? For example, say I had this pair of commands:

    movq    %rdx,-584(%rbp)
    movl    -584(%rbp),%eax

That could easily be converted to "movl %edx,%eax", especially as %rbp is likely pointing to the top of the stack.  But if the reference uses different registers, would it still be safe to make this optimisation given that the scheduler could suspend the thread in between the two instructions and then another thread writes to the same memory block before control is returned?

I am aware of other examples that require caution.  For example:

    movslq    -608(%rbp),%rdx
    subl    %eax,-84(%rbp,%rdx,4)
    movslq    -608(%rbp),%rdx

Here it might be tempting to remove the second "movslq" instruction, but the value of %rdx could happen to be equal to -131, which would allow the subl instruction to modify -608(%rbp), and in this situation, it's quite likely if a malicious input is given to the program to manipulate the value stored at -608(%rbp) and invoke a buffer overrun.

So in conclusion, theoretically, where is it perfectly safe to assume the value in memory hasn't changed, where would it be permissible only under -O4 and where must it not be optimised at all?

Gareth aka. Kit

P.S. Assembly examples were taken from the System unit.


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