On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Well there are some things ofcourse wrong with Free Pascal: I'm assuming you were being sarcastic or ironic. You can assume the same when you read this reply. > > 1. First the name: > > "Free" > > Bussiness people don't believe in "Free". So what ? We don't believe in such business people in the first place. > > 2. Free Pascal Quality itself: > > When I see simple things not working like: > > Read or Readln or whatever, I run away screaming from Free Pascal ;) :) If you see a bug, please file a report. All the rest is FUD. And be realistic: I asked a C++ programmer how to read a simple string from file. After 4 hours of looking through the MFC help, he had to admit that he didn't know how. And this is NOT a joke, but a real life situation. The guy was payed more than I was. > > 3. It doesn't have an advanced development environment like Visual Studio 2005 > or Delphi 7 / Delphi 2007 (last one sucky though) > > I have seen onde IDE Lazareus or something like that and it's a clone of > Delphi 7 but it doesn't have the quality yet :) Well. Delphi 7 crashes every second debug run in my day-time job. Lazarus still has to crash on me. Please provide REAL arguments, REAL missing features. All the rest is FUD. Use Lazarus for a month daily, to develop a real program, and then come back. People who have used lazarus for about 1 hour and then tell us 'this and that feature is not working' just do not have any right of voice. Lazarus has quite a lot of options which Delphi does not have, and vice versa. You must go through a learning curve, like with any other product. You can't judge a book by looking at its cover. > > 4. Pascal sounds oooooldddddddddd and reminds people of the 16 bit dos/days. > Yak ! Full of frustration, limitations, and code going into the waste basket > ;) :) Only for stupid programmers. We are not interested in people who look only to the package or the surface. They are hype-sensitive and will disappear as soon as the next hype comes along. > > 5. Special features for Free Pascal, what does it offer that the other tools > do not ? The question is not what it has to offer more: the question is what the other tools offer more. The answer is: Nothing whatsoever. At most, they save some typing using some obscure language features. So what ? Use code templates in your favourite IDE, and you'll have to type even less. Pascal is a decent language, just like any other. Why would we need to defend it ? We prove daily that it 'just works'. > > I know free pascal can cross compile but for now I only need to compile for > Windows 32 bit and maybe Windows 64 bit in the future ;) > > What features does free pascal offer for Win32 or Win64 development which > other environments do not ? For a start: it works; Just start Lazarus. You mentioned Delphi: it does not work. If you see a business person, do not spread FUD, give real arguments. I converted my company from a VB company to a Delphi company. I just used Delphi, and simply showed to them that I could do the work better, cleaner and faster than they did in the past. Any business man should be sensitive to that: time is money. Michael. _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal