On 04/19/2017 06:01 AM, Paul Breneman wrote:
On 04/18/2017 07:38 AM, Paul Breneman wrote:
On 04/17/2017 08:42 PM, Jon Foster wrote:
...
You have to copy the app to "/data/tmp" as that is usually the only
place on Android with a Linux file system that all users have access to.
You can't look in there so you kind of have to fly blind. :-) "Terminal
IDE" makes this easier, assuming you have a compatible Android version,
since it provides the Linux file system space, term emulator and easy
access.

This was what I thought Paul was looking to do. FreeVision might work
depending on a number of variables... but I'm not familiar with it. Most
Android terminal apps would provide some kind of VT100 like emulation so
you may have to force FreeVision to output for that emulation. If it
tries to use a "termcap" through normal means it probably will crash.


Thanks Jon *very* much for the details that you shared!  I hope to get
time to get back into this soon and I'm sure that your notes will help.

Well, I tried a bit this morning but have failed so far.

With GNURoot Debian it comes up as Debian version 8.1 but I upgraded to 8.7 using the instructions near the bottom of this page:
  http://turbocontrol.com/gnuroot.htm

The 2.6.0 ppcarm itself fails to run with: Illegal instruction

I also posted a new zip (not yet on web page) and tried that: HelloWorld-fpc-3.0.2.arm-linux-041917.zip

The 3.0.2 ppcarm itself fails with: Segmentation fault

Thanks in advance for *any* suggestions. As soon as I get this working I hope to create a new wiki page so it is easier for others to share. :)

Thanks,
Paul Breneman
www.ControlPascal.com
I don't know anything about your environment but a few possibilities spring to mind:

1. Newer version of Android which requires a PIC/PIE binary and you aren't running one or maybe even the inverse. Although I think this normally gives an error about "PIE" being needed, at least in the Android 5+ case.

2. An ABI mismatch.

3. Running on an FPU-less device with a compiler that wasn't built with emulation. I can't imagine what the compiler would need with an FPU though.

4. The ppcarm binary was built with a set of ARM instructions your device doesn't support. They've added many extensions to the core ARM instruction set over the years and different chip foundries can choose which they want to include or not.

5. Bad RAM?

Since FPC is completely self contained I can't imagine anything in the actual Linux install would be a problem. I'm certain they are using the Android kernel and not doing something like UML, but I don't know anything about the GNUroot project. I used someone else's Linux installer once, originally titled "Lil' Debbie". They had to change their name for obvious reasons. I couldn't find a VNC client that worked well enough to use it though, even though my Iconia tablet sports a standard USB A connector and it had no trouble with a stock keyboard and mouse. I don't think the VNC clients I tried were expecting real input hardware. :-)

--
Jon Foster
JF Possibilities, Inc.
j...@jfpossibilities.com

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