We use google fonts almost exclusively these days -- Free, many have a wide 
range of weights, and they read well on screen. Added bonus: none of the wonky 
"available in application X but not in application Y" issues that Adobe fonts 
seem to be plagued by (on MacOS at least). 

Tori Muir
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On 3/21/24, 9:02 AM, "Framers on behalf of Edwards, Patrick H" 
<framers-bounces+tmuir=spot-on-creative....@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of 
edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu> wrote:

    You could use something like Adobe's Source Sans that has a ton of variants:
    https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/source-sans
    See the Licensing tab on this page.

    Best,
    Patrick

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    From: Framers <framers-bounces+edwards=iodp.tamu....@lists.frameusers.com> 
On Behalf Of Simon BUCH
    Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 10:17 AM
    To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>; Tammy Van Boening 
<tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com>
    Subject: Re: [Framers] San Serif Font?

    Hello Tammy, "Standard" with Windows? I find that Microsoft will make 
changes to their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends 
to supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example, 
Microsoft recently changed
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    Hello Tammy,



    "Standard" with Windows?   I find that Microsoft will make changes to

    their Windows and Office offerings as they want to, and Adobe tends to

    supply few and fewer fonts with every product release. For example,

    Microsoft recently changed the default Office font from Calibri to Aptos.



    Fonts that come with Windows are not the same as fonts that are supplied

    when Microsoft Office is installed.

    One good example of this is "Arial".  When some versions of Office were

    installed, Arial got a "Unicode MS" variant which had many more font

    glyphs than the original Arial. This would sometimes cause problems when

    Word documents were shared with users who didn't have the extra fonts

    installed.





    I would suggest to specify a font the customer wants, regardless of what

    Microsoft specifies.

    This way you/customer can choose which fonts to use, but also determine

    under which license the fonts are available.

         
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    /// Simon BUCH









    On 21/03/2024 14:02, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

    > OK all,

    > I am doing a major overhaul on an existing template for a client. I very 
much like the San serif fonts of Eurostile or Roboto, but I really don't want 
to break my cardinal rule of using proprietary fonts that have to be embedded 
in the final PDF. I really would like to be able to use a font that comes 
standard with windows, but which font, in your opinion, that comes standard 
with windows would be the closest to either of these two fonts?

    >

    > My client saw a template that I was working on for another project and 
really commented that they liked the look of the Roboto font and then I showed 
him one with the EUROSTILE font and they like that one just as much. That said, 
I don't wanna leave my client with  having to deal with fonts in their source 
files.

    > Thanks!

    > Tammy

    >

    > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.

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