Btw, I inherited these documents; I was not the original author. My assumption was that the original author knew FM and what I see is a proper mode of working... Well, now I understand that just as that is not true for a Word document, it is equally not true for an FM document.
avi > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Avraham Makeler <amake...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> You should seriously consider changing this practice in favor of >> placing the table title inside the title box that is an optional part of the >> table object. >> You are right. >> Ok, did it. >> >> I see now that that also immediately correctly the jumping problem. >> Not exactly sure yet why it fixed it, but fix it it did. >> >> Tnx >> >> avi >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Avi Makeler wrote: >>> >>> > I have this small table, which certainly fits on one page, that prefers >>> > jumping to the next page. I found no 'problem' with any of the table >>> rows >>> > that should cause this. I put the table anchor on the table caption >>> line. I >>> > see that the "Keep With Next" of the table caption is set to true (to >>> the >>> > credit of the original author of this doc - not me). On all the table >>> rows, >>> > 'Keep With Next' is set to false (no heading row), which is also >>> correct. >>> >>> If I correctly understand what you are saying, you have a regular >>> paragraph >>> that contains both the title (or caption) of the table plus the anchor >>> for >>> the table itself. If so, you should seriously consider changing this >>> practice >>> in favor of placing the table title inside the title box that is an >>> optional part >>> of the table object. This approach has several advantages: >>> - it keeps all parts of the table within the table object >>> - the horizontal position of the title is always relative to the table >>> itself >>> (e.g. it moves when a wide table spans a sidehead area) >>> - it provides better control over the space between the table and its >>> title >>> and between the table title and the surrounding text >>> - whatever text is in the title box automatically repeats on each page if >>> the table spans multiple pages >>> - within the title box you are able to insert the Table Continueation or >>> Table Sheet system variables that differentiate continuation pages >>> from the first page of a table >>> In fact, the advantages of the table title box are so strong that many >>> users choose to insert their figures inside a single-cell table just to >>> encapsulate the graphic and its caption as a single object. >>> >>> > So I decided to see what would happen if I set the caption's 'Keep With >>> > Next' to false. >>> > Lo and behold ... the table repositions itself to where it is supposed >>> to >>> > be. >>> > >>> > Tentative conclusion: it seems that the setting: >>> > "Keep With Next" = true >>> > of the table caption (or maybe of the table anchor on that line) is >>> > percolating down through all the table rows even though they themselves >>> have >>> > that setting set to false. >>> >>> The fact that the paragraph that contains the table anchor also >>> happens to be the table caption is irrelevant because the caption >>> is not really connected to the object that is the table. When you >>> set that paragraph to "keep with next", it is trying to keep it's >>> pilcrow (paragraph mark) on the same page as the start of the >>> next paragraph of text in the text flow. And since the table anchor >>> is *before* the pilcrow, FrameMaker will break the page early to >>> try to keep the caption paragraph as close as possible to the >>> following text paragraph regardless of the presence of the table. >>> In other words, the "next" that the caption is trying to stay with >>> is *NOT* the table object; the table is actually part of the caption >>> paragraph because its anchor is before the pilcrow. >>> >>> -Fred Ridder >>> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
