Thanks for your thoughts folks.

Dan: While I agree substantially with what you have to say we need to remember that creating a parallel list does not presuppose that list members are restricted to either one list or the other. People can subscribe to both and get postings from both and when they subscribe any list options are listed on the subscriptions page so they can check which ones they want to subscribe to. The ensure knowledge a line is already on the footer with a link to the subscriptions page.

Operationally a subscriber who has subscribed to both lists would not see a lot of difference in their traffic. In other communities where I have subscribed and that have multiple list structures the atomisation of subjects does not appear to cause issues. It is also something that is common in online forums, so for the average punter it is not a foreign concept. I think you might even find that it increases the target population with those subscribing to a jobbing list only and vice versa for the technicals list.

It would take a lot of work for some one/people to police the frequency at which job postings are made but in that yes, a policy would be desirable.

Fei Min: The question was raised as to whether this forum would be an appropriate place for people to begin making postings about their availability for work (permanent, part-time, or contract), people looking for work, and organisations looking for people. We are not talking about what has historically been the case but what could happen if the proposition were taken up. I then raised the question that if the volume of job related posts increases substantially, perhaps a new list specific to that type of posting be created. The purpose thus to reduce noise on what is otherwise a fairly busy technical mail list.

Certainly I am one who would make use of a second list. Anyway, its up to the list owners, eh.

Cheers
Alan

On 17/11/2010, at 3:26 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:

For what it's worth, I agree with Dan. We've never had so many job postings on this list that they're annoying, and I think most people like to browse them just to see what's out there.

Fei Min

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Job Posting Question.

"I think Alan's suggestion has merit. A separate job posting/ finding group would be a great asset."

I'll post a dissenting opinion, simply because by fragmenting this list into sublists you potentially wind up with a much smaller audience seeing the announcement, not to mention unawareness of the existence of the new list. This list has an established audience.

I think that with some common sense guidelines, job posting/wanted posts are on-target for the list (feel free to disagree with any or all of the following; I'm just throwing them out there):

1. The position should be specifically FrameMaker-related; no generics.

2. The subject line should have a title or prefix that clearly indicates it is an employment-related announcement ("EMPLOYMENT: " or something similar).

3. There should be a mandatory waiting period before reposting the same announcement (1x a month max? biweekly perhaps?)

It shouldn't be a problem as long as there are no abusers of the policy... naïve perhaps, but hey, I can wish! :)

-Dan

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Alan T Litchfield
AlphaByte
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New Zealand
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
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