Hi there I have a document in Frame 7, when I try to import the formats from a new document, the text in the original document turns florescent green and is crossed out. I cant seem to reformat it. Has anyone encountered this before?
Thanks Stacy -----Original Message----- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Sent: February 7, 2011 1:00 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: framers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 7 Send framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source (de Rouck, Tom (Gent)) 2. RE: Registration marks missing (White, Scott) 3. Re: Registration marks missing (Brad Anderson) 4. Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML) (Eric Geissinger) 5. Re: Registration marks missing (Mike Wickham) 6. RE: Registration marks missing (White, Scott) 7. RE: Registration marks missing (White, Scott) 8. RE: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source (Combs, Richard) 9. RE: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML) (Rick Quatro) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:02:35 +0100 From: "de Rouck, Tom (Gent)" <tom.dero...@sgs.com> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Cc: "angela.akri...@gmail.com" <angela.akri...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source Message-ID: <21245_1297065753_4D4FA719_21245_1563890_1_F252BA06473E4944A4D698B385A31 51734D1209610@exdrnsmbsgs010.EQ1SGS.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Angela, I don't know which 'entry points' Word generates when creating (html) output from it for a heading 1 for example, but that can easily be found out by generating a Word doc. As an emergency solution you can then use the "pass through" option in Frame/Webworks to type a working link in Framemaker. You then have to leave the idea of perfect single-sourcing behind however... Regards, Tom Tom De Rouck SGS Documentation Services Technical Writer -----Original Message----- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Sent: zondag 6 februari 2011 19:00 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: framers Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6 Send framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source (Writer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: Writer <generic...@yahoo.ca> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source Message-ID: <971197.51947...@web88106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Angela already asked this question on the WebWorks forum, but I suggested that she ask the question here, too, since it's not strictly an ePublisher question. Forget the ePublisher side of things for now. I'd like to know if you can link/xref/whatever from a point INSIDE an FM file to a point INSIDE a Word file, and vice versa. Nadine --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Steve Johnson <chinask...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Steve Johnson <chinask...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source > To: "Angela Akridge" <angela.akri...@gmail.com> > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 7:12 PM I'm copying Bell Allums from > WebWorks. There probably is a way but I can't recall it. > > You can also post this on the WebWorks user forum, which is a Yahoo > user group, search for it. > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridge > <angela.akri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know most, if not all of you, love Frame and would > never consider using MS > > Word. I too use Frame for most of my projects. > > > > However, I have MS Word files that need to be > maintained by other authors > > (technical support), and these same files are used in > my online help. > > > > I basically have a "hybrid" help system that calls > both Frame source and MS > > Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks > great, and a customer > > can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I > need to link > > (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two > sources. > > > > Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to an Information in this email and any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise directed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS conditions of service available on request and accessible at http://www.sgs.com/terms_and_conditions.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:33:39 -0500 From: "White, Scott" <swh...@alamark.com> To: "Brad Anderson" <b...@frameusers.com> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Registration marks missing Message-ID: <c5081830688f9e4dab4ee0f3d0a8cfdb01585...@idgusexch02.idg-corp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off. Final output is 11x17. My steps are: *Select adobe acrobat as my printer. *Turn off generate acrobat data *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame *Select page size *Print What am I missing? Scott White Manager - Content and Print Media Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM To: White, Scott Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Registration marks missing Scott, What was the final size of the PDF? 11x17 or 8.5 x 11? Turn off the Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped. Thanks, Brad On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote: > I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I > didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF. > I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to > 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the registration > marks. > > Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0. > > Thoughts? > > Scott White > Manager - Content and Print Media > Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 08:15:35 -0600 From: Brad Anderson <b...@frameusers.com> To: "White, Scott" <swh...@alamark.com> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Registration marks missing Message-ID: <6b49beda-a06b-4482-a349-3ad0947e6...@frameusers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scott, If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18). You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration marks. If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to PDF. Do the registration marks now show? Thanks, Brad On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote: > Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off. > Final output is 11x17. > My steps are: > *Select adobe acrobat as my printer. > *Turn off generate acrobat data > *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame *Select page size *Print > > What am I missing? > > > > > Scott White > Manager - Content and Print Media > Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended > recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, > copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance > upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this > message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not > compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this > communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages > sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to > archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the > recipient. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM > To: White, Scott > Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Registration marks missing > > Scott, > > What was the final size of the PDF? 11x17 or 8.5 x 11? Turn off the > Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped. > > Thanks, > > Brad > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote: > >> I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I >> didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF. >> I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to >> 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the > registration >> marks. >> >> Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Scott White >> Manager - Content and Print Media >> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 >> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:02:50 -0500 From: "Eric Geissinger" <egeissin...@stny.rr.com> To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML) Message-ID: <007501cbc6d8$1754f370$0201000a@ownerea49f7d5c> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I get this completely irritating message 50 times every time I convert my document to HTML: "Cannot find a heading element for a section that is being converted to a sub-document. The top-level document will not contain a link to the sub-document. OK to continue?" I hit OK a billion times, weeping with frustration, and the result is fine. I just can't hit OK that much. I'll end up with carpel tunnel. Plus this is just a small test book. I can't hit OK 2000 times for the real book. The reason is clear but yet unclear to me. I am saving a structured book into HTML and told Frame via the HTML conversion tables in the reference pages (for the book), that I want new pages to start on various elements. Fine. I map the elements to various HTML tags. OK. The thing is I don't really WANT Frame to automatically include links to the subdocument in the HTML. Why? Read on my friends... For example, if my Frame document has a page like this: (Frame chapter) +++Functions follow+++++ These functions are really great. Check them out. This is a link to Function A This is a link to Function B This is a link to Function C Thank for reading, enjoy your functions. +++End of Functions++++ That is kinda how the start of the chapter goes. After this overview page are the functions themselves on new pages, first Function A, then B, etc. Now, since "Function A" is a link to the function which starts a new page (in the book), I don't want this link automatically reincluded when it is saved to HTML. Because then I get: (HTML OUTPUT) +++Functions follow+++++ These functions are really great. Check them out. This is a link to Function A This is a link to Function B This is a link to Function C Thank for reading, enjoy your functions. +++End of Functions++++ (---> auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function A (---> auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function B (---> auto-inserted by HTML conversion) Link to Function C Where the last three are the "automatic" links that the HTML conversion puts in there for me. So now there are two full sets of links on the page both of which work. Ugh. Not wanted. I want the HTML conversion to "generate" a new page without actually inserting a link for me, since the link is already there in the actual Frame document. So what I have done is NOT map the Function "start new page" elements to HTML headings (instead to Body), which stops the HTML conversion from adding the link to the sub-document. So that is why I get all them messages. My question: can I suppress the messages via the Frame .ini file or something, or is there another, better way to do what I am trying to do which also suppresses these annoying messages? Is there a way to tell the HTML conversion: "Make a new web page when you get to this element, but DO NOT add a link to the subdocument?" Many, many thanks. I just can't take it anymore. --EG ================ Eric Geissinger ================ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:05:53 -0600 From: Mike Wickham <i...@mikewickham.com> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Registration marks missing Message-ID: <4d500a51.8060...@mikewickham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 2/7/2011 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote: > Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off. > Final output is 11x17. > My steps are: > *Select adobe acrobat as my printer. > *Turn off generate acrobat data > *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame *Select page size *Print > > What am I missing? Did you set your page size large enough to hold the registration marks? If the document is 11x17, you need to set the page size to something like 12x18 to provide room to show the registration marks. Mike Wickham ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:31:08 -0500 From: "White, Scott" <swh...@alamark.com> To: "Mike Wickham" <i...@mikewickham.com>, <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: RE: Registration marks missing Message-ID: <c5081830688f9e4dab4ee0f3d0a8cfdb01585...@idgusexch02.idg-corp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My document is 8.5 x 11. I'm printing to an exaggerated page size 11 x17 to show the bleeds. This is the way I have done it in years past. I know its got to be something I'm doing in this new version. I've got to be missing a step. Scott White Manager - Content and Print Media Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. -----Original Message----- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:06 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Registration marks missing On 2/7/2011 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote: > Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off. > Final output is 11x17. > My steps are: > *Select adobe acrobat as my printer. > *Turn off generate acrobat data > *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame *Select page size *Print > > What am I missing? Did you set your page size large enough to hold the registration marks? If the document is 11x17, you need to set the page size to something like 12x18 to provide room to show the registration marks. Mike Wickham _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as swh...@alamark.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:29:19 -0500 From: "White, Scott" <swh...@alamark.com> To: "Brad Anderson" <b...@frameusers.com> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Registration marks missing Message-ID: <c5081830688f9e4dab4ee0f3d0a8cfdb01585...@idgusexch02.idg-corp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration Marks. But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it works. Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks? However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off. Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to avoid every pitfall I can. Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old Mac version to do my color output? A thought. Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame. For those who may have missed: Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium Scott White Manager - Content and Print Media Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. 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Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. ________________________________ From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM To: White, Scott Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Registration marks missing Scott, If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18). You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration marks. If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving to PDF. Do the registration marks now show? Thanks, Brad On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote: Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off. Final output is 11x17. My steps are: *Select adobe acrobat as my printer. *Turn off generate acrobat data *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame *Select page size *Print What am I missing? Scott White Manager - Content and Print Media Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Anderson [mailto:b...@frameusers.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM To: White, Scott Cc: Brad Anderson; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Registration marks missing Scott, What was the final size of the PDF? 11x17 or 8.5 x 11? Turn off the Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped. Thanks, Brad On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote: I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF. I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the registration marks. Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7 home premium. Framemaker 9.0. Thoughts? Scott White Manager - Content and Print Media Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752 This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality. If you have received this communication in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Messages sent to or from this contact will be recorded and are subject to archival, monitoring, and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:01:55 -0800 From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com> To: "generic...@yahoo.ca" <generic...@yahoo.ca>, "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: RE: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source Message-ID: <c5d089c86687bc4dbbabe1cc5b3e45fcc9608...@crpmboxprd01.polycom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Writer wrote: > Forget the ePublisher side of things for now. I'd like to know if you > can link/xref/whatever from a point INSIDE an FM file to a point > INSIDE a Word file, and vice versa. Are you really wanting to link to a place inside a Word file, or are you wanting to link to a place inside a help file whose _source_ is Word? Angela was wanting to do the latter. As I pointed out, that's easily done using a hypertext command in FM, e.g.: Message URL SomeHTMLPage.html#12345 In the HTML output (I'm assuming some kind of HTML-based help system here), this turns into something like this: <a href="SomeHTMLPage.html#12345">Link</a> In the Word source for the destination HTML page, you need to do something to add an anchor tag to the intended destination, e.g.: <a name="12345">Destination of Link</a> I know how to do that in FM, but not in Word -- although I'm sure there's a way, maybe using bookmarks. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 ------ rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 ------ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:35:30 -0500 From: "Rick Quatro" <r...@rickquatro.com> To: "'Eric Geissinger'" <egeissin...@stny.rr.com>, <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: RE: Please help me stop weeping... (sub-documents when converting to HTML) Message-ID: <005701cbc6ed$6c365540$44a2ffc0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Eric, Although this won't solve your underlying problem, it will press the button for you: http://www.ptfbpro.com/ There is also a free version available. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. 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