Hello Les, 

I'm not sure what you mean by the question marks in your descriptions. Could 
you please explain? 

I'm still having issues with the added "< >" tag not making any difference, and 
with the figures interfering with the section numbering (1.1, 1.2, etc.) . 

Thanks, 
Anirae 




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Subject: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured 
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Framers, 

Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The 
hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you 
can help. 

The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures 
and tables. 

Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the 
book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want 
each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and 
TOC). The Book is set up as follows: 
1st file : 
Volume: #1 
Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything) 

All other files: 
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book. 
Chapter: Read from File 

Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc. 

If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get: 

2 Heading 
2.1 Heading 
Figure 1-5 
Figure 1-6 
1.6 Heading 
Figure 1-7 
really messed up 

If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get: 
It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not influenced 
by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number: 

2.3 heading 
Figure 1-3 
Figure 1-4 
2.3.1 Heading 
Figure 1-6 

If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some 
sight), I get: 

1 Heading 
Figure 0-1 
Figure 0-2 
2 Heading 
Figure 0-3 
2.3 Heading 
Figure 0-4 
2.3.1 Heading 
Figure 0-5 

What should I do to get: 

1 Heading 
Figure 1-1 
1.1 Heading 
Figure 1-2 
2 Heading 
Figure 2-1 
Figure 2-2 
2.1 Heading 
Figure 2-3 
2.1.1 Heading 
Figure 2-4 
and so forth 

Thank you! 
A 
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 05:51:08 -0800 (PST) 
From: Les Smalley <[email protected]> 
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, 
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured 
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Hi Anirae! 

If I read your message corrrectly, you want to have the figure numbers (and 
possibly also table numbers) increment? from 1 within each major section of the 
chapter containing them, and not interfere with or be altered by possible 
multiple levels of sub-sections.? The major section does reset them to start at 
one again. 


For this to work, the figures, tables and headings will have to be in the same 
numbered series (e.g. F: or H:) but you also need to use placeholders - the 
empty building block < > (which does not alter, nor show the value) - for 
counters that should not be affected. 

One suggestion is to create a grid of your numbering needs, so you can more 
easily see where you need to use the various types of numbering building block 
- display only (e.g. <n>), incrementing (e.g. <n+>) or ignoring (< > and note 
the space between the less-than and greater-than symbols) 


Here is how I would setup your formats, assuming only three levels of headings 
(as per your example).? I've added a counter for tables as well, so there are 5 
total numbering positions. 

H:<n+>??????????????? 1 Heading (increment 1st level heading, reset all 
lower-level numbers: figures, 
???????????????????????????????? tables and sub-headings) 


H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-1 (show current heading #, increment figure #, 
don't change table or 
????????????????????????????????? sub-headings) 

H:<n>< >< >.<n+>????? 1.1 Heading (display current heading #, don't change 
figure or table #, 
?????????????????????????????????? increment 1st subhead and reset lower 
sub-heading) 

H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 1-2 

H:<n+>??????????????? 2 Heading 


H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-1 


H:<n>.< ><n+>< >< >?? Table 2.1? (show current heading #, don't change figure 
#, increment table #, 
????????????????????????????????? don't change sub-headings) 

H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-2 


H:<n>< >< >.<n+>????? 2.1 Heading 


H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-3 


H:<n>< >< >.<n>.<n+>? 2.1.1 Heading(display current heading #, don't change 
figure or table, 
???????????????????????????????????? show 1st subhead and increment lower 
sub-heading) 

H:<n>-<n+>< >< >< >?? Figure 2-4 

and so forth.? As I'm not completely clear on how you are using either the 
$VolNum or $ChapNum variables (or corresponding numbering building blocks,) I 
have not shown those, and trust that this example will get you on the right 
path fairly quickly. 

? Les 



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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:22 PM 
Subject: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured 


Framers, 

Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. The 
hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope you 
can help. 

The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures 
and tables. 

Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want the 
book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I want 
each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title page and 
TOC). The Book is set up as follows: 
1st file : 
Volume: #1 
Chapter: #1? (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything) 

All other files: 
Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book. 
Chapter: Read from File 

Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc. 

If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get: 

2 Heading 
2.1 Heading 
Figure 1-5 
Figure 1-6 
1.6 Heading 
Figure 1-7 
really messed up 

If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get: 
It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not influenced 
by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section number: 

2.3 heading 
Figure 1-3 
Figure 1-4 
2.3.1 Heading 
Figure 1-6 

If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some 
sight), I get: 

1 Heading 
Figure 0-1 
Figure 0-2 
2 Heading 
Figure 0-3 
2.3 Heading 
Figure 0-4 
2.3.1 Heading 
Figure 0-5 

What should I do to get: 

1 Heading 
Figure 1-1 
1.1 Heading 
Figure 1-2 
2 Heading 
Figure 2-1 
Figure 2-2 
2.1 Heading 
Figure 2-3 
2.1.1 Heading 
Figure 2-4 
and so forth 

Thank you! 
A 
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:53:28 -0500 
From: Lin Sims <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured 
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Can you send your numbering properties for all the numbered tags? I'm 
not sure without looking at them, but I have a feeling that you're 
using the same counter position/building block for both the figures 
and some of your section numbers. 

If you look at this page, Adobe has a nice table about halfway down 
the page showing how to set the building blocks up. 

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF176D8C8-8133-4860-88E3-AF69262623F0.html
 

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Framers, 
> 
> Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. 
> The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope 
> you can help. 
> 
> The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures 
> and tables. 
> 
> Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want 
> the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I 
> want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title 
> page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows: 
> 1st file : 
> Volume: #1 
> Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything) 
> 
> All other files: 
> Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book. 
> Chapter: Read from File 
> 
> Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc. 
> 
> If figure format is H:Figure<sectionnum>\t<n+>, I get: 
> 
> 2 Heading 
> 2.1 Heading 
> Figure 1-5 
> Figure 1-6 
> 1.6 Heading 
> Figure 1-7 
> really messed up 
> 
> If figure format is F:Figure<n>\t<n+>, I get: 
> It does not recognize Heading 1 as <n> but Heading numbers are not 
> influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section 
> number: 
> 
> 2.3 heading 
> Figure 1-3 
> Figure 1-4 
> 2.3.1 Heading 
> Figure 1-6 
> 
> If figure format is H:Figure<n>\t<n+><>.\t (as suggested by a post from some 
> sight), I get: 
> 
> 1 Heading 
> Figure 0-1 
> Figure 0-2 
> 2 Heading 
> Figure 0-3 
> 2.3 Heading 
> Figure 0-4 
> 2.3.1 Heading 
> Figure 0-5 
> 
> What should I do to get: 
> 
> 1 Heading 
> Figure 1-1 
> 1.1 Heading 
> Figure 1-2 
> 2 Heading 
> Figure 2-1 
> Figure 2-2 
> 2.1 Heading 
> Figure 2-3 
> 2.1.1 Heading 
> Figure 2-4 
> and so forth 
> 
> Thank you! 
> A 
> 
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