Hi Rick,

Thank you for the information, it sounds like an interesting tool. In my case 
no folders or files have been renamed so that isn’t the problem.

Like Alison, I’d like to know *why* FrameMaker seems to be changing relative 
references to absolute ones when I’ve followed the rules and kept all files in 
the same directory with graphics neatly organized in a single subdirectory. My 
understanding of FrameMaker was that maintaining relative references was one of 
the program’s claims to fame; now it seems that “feature” is a lot more fragile 
than I thought.

Thanks,

Peggy

From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:15 PM
To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Paul Wilbraham'; Harvey, Peggy
Subject: RE: Relative vs. absolute links

Hi Alison and Peggy,

Please forgive me if I have sent you this link before. Please let me know if 
you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.

http://frameautomation.com/2010/02/23/managing-imported-images-solution/

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com<mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>



From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:06 PM
To: Paul Wilbraham; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'; Harvey, Peggy
Subject: RE: Relative vs. absolute links

I would agree, as when I send the files out – all on the same drive – 
everything works fine with relative paths.

But when they come back – still all on the same drive – they are returned with 
absolute paths.

That’s my dilemma. The relative positions of the files don’t change – but the 
paths become absolute anyway.

Note that while my version control database is on a network drive, all files 
are checked out to a local drive when they are being worked on, so there is no 
network issue, at least on my end.

Alison

From: Paul Wilbraham [mailto:paul.wilbra...@m-ais.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:30 AM
To: Alison Craig; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'; Harvey, Peggy
Subject: RE: Relative vs. absolute links

Alison
We find that graphics on the same drive as the original files are relative. 
Graphics on a separate drive are absolute.

--Paul
On 27 February 2013 at 18:09 Alison Craig 
<alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com>> wrote:
I’d love to hear an explanation as I often have the same relative/absolute 
issue with graphics and xrefs when my files are returned from the translators.

Although in my case, everything is done in FM 9 or with the MIF 9 format – so 
my issue has nothing to do with Frame versioning.

Alison

PS: All FM files used to create the Book are in a single folder with graphics 
in a series of subfolders.

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harvey, Peggy
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:41 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Relative vs. absolute links

Hi Framers,

FM 9 p 237 and FM 7 p576

Situation: Converting files between FM 7 and FM 9. All links and file 
references are relative when I start but appear to become absolute when I 
convert either way.

I need to share files with a coworker at another site. I have FM 9 and he has 
FM 7. The files, including the book file, are always all in a single directory 
with a “Graphics” subdirectory for all graphics.

Here’s the sequence of events:

1) The files were originally in FM 7. (When I inherited them, at least.) I put 
them on a network drive in that form, without converting them to FM 9.
2) My coworker edited the files, then put them back on the network drive so I 
could do some clean up work on them. I moved them to a different network drive 
to do the work.
3) I opened all of the files in FM 9, therefore converting them to FM 9 format. 
I did my cleanup, including fixing the graphics path to the “Graphics” 
subfolder and fixing cross-reference links that were broken. In retrospect I 
believe cross-references within the same file were okay but cross-references 
between files were all broken.
4) When I finished my work I saved each individual file and the book file in 
MIF 7.0 format. I saved the MIF files in a different folder than the FM 9 files 
and copied the “Graphics” directory to the same folder as the MIF files.
5) I opened each MIF file and the MIF book file in FM 7, then saved each one in 
.fm (or .book) format.
6) I noticed that the book file seemed to be referring to the the previous 
files – the FM 9 files with the same names in the different folder. I deleted 
all of the file references and added all of the FM 7 files that I’d just 
created. So the FM 7 book file and individual files were all in the same folder.
6) When I went to generate the book I got an error log that all of the 
cross-references I’d fixed in FM 9 were unresolved again. Upon further 
inspection I discovered all of the graphics had the wrong path, too – they were 
linked absolutely to the “Graphics” folder in my FM 9 folder, not to the 
relative “Graphics” folder I’d copied to the FM 7 folder.

My question: Why are the links and references to files (graphics and 
cross-references) changing from relative to absolute paths when I convert from 
one version to another? At least that’s what seems to be happening, either when 
I open FM 7 files directly in FM 9 or when I go through the MIF to convert from 
FM 9 back to FM 7. Anyone have any insight to this?

FYI: Our final solution is we’re STRONGLY recommending my coworker upgrade to 
FM 9 as soon as possible. I’m hoping he’ll be able to even though Adobe is on 
FM 11 now. I’ve seen the traffic on the list about FM 11; I have no desire to 
update to it at this time so I’m hoping he doesn’t have to, either.

Thanks,

Peggy


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