Hi Fred,

 

I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they
worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify
sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to
9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks.

 

Rick

 

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM
To: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables

 

Thanks Rick and Syed.

In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and
tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more
convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the
<KeySequence > definition, or added a <Modify > command, those two MoveIP
commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work,
as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two
commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the
move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach
for the mouse every damn time.

What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0,
7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on
us with version 9.0. Sigh...

I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it
in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has
taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have
taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was
moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug
was that "we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
work". Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with
how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved
differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and
processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but
my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in
New Jersey. But that's a story for another day...

Thanks for your efforts, guys.

Fred Ridder 

> From: r...@rickquatro.com
> To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com;
docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
> 
> Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and
add
> these lines:
> 
> <Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight <KeySequence /Right >>
> <Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft <KeySequence /Left >>
> <Modify MoveIPToCellAbove <KeySequence /Up >>
> <Modify MoveIPToCellBelow <KeySequence /Down >>
> 
> Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells
using
> the arrow keys. If you want the target cell selected when you move to it,
> you may have to substitute one of the other table commands. Here is a list
> of them:
> 
> <Command MoveIPToCellAtRight
> <Label Move IP To Cell At Right>
> <KeySequence \!tmr>
> <Definition \xFB1>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToCellAtLeft
> <Label Move IP To Cell At Left>
> <KeySequence \!tml>
> <Definition \xFB2>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToCellAbove
> <Label Move IP To Cell Above>
> <KeySequence \!tmu>
> <Definition \xFB3>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPUpAndSelectText
> <Label Move IP Up And Select Text>
> <KeySequence \!tmua>
> <Definition \xFB3 \xFA4>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToCellBelow
> <Label Move IP To Cell Below>
> <KeySequence \!tmd>
> <Definition \xFB4>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPDownAndSelectText
> <Label Move IP Down And Select Text>
> <KeySequence \!tmda>
> <Definition \xFB4 \xFA4>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToLeftmostCell
> <Label Move IP To Leftmost Cell>
> <KeySequence \!tma>
> <Definition \xFB5>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToRightmostCell
> <Label Move IP To Rightmost Cell>
> <KeySequence \!tme>
> <Definition \xFB6>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToNextCell
> <Label Move IP To Next Cell>
> <KeySequence \!tmn>
> <Definition \xFB7>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToPreviousCell
> <Label Move IP To Previous Cell>
> <KeySequence \!tmp>
> <Definition \xFB8>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToColumnTop
> <Label Move IP To Column Top>
> <KeySequence \!tmt>
> <Definition \xFB9>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToColumnBottom
> <Label Move IP To Column Bottom>
> <KeySequence \!tmb>
> <Definition \xFBA>>
> 
> <Command MoveIPToTopLeftCell
> <Label Move IP To Top Left Cell>
> <KeySequence \!tmT>
> <Definition \xFB9 \xFB5>
> <Mode All>>
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem
Hosain
> (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:26 PM
> To: Alison Craig; Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
> 
> The sequence "<Escape>tmda" will move the Insertion Point down one cell
and
> highlight the text in it.
> 
> The sequence "<Escape>tmd" (i.e., without the 'a') is support to just move
> the Insertion Point down one cell. But it does not seem to work ... :(
> 
> And, of course, "<Escape>tmua" goes up one cell. Again, for some reason
> unknown to me, "<Escape>tmu" does not work ...
> 
> What I have not been able to figure out is how to tie the arrow keys to
this
> sequence of keystroke when in cells. None of the above sequences are short
> enough ... the arrow keys are the way to do it.
> 
> FWIW, this is also one of _my_ pet peeves with FrameMaker . and it is one
> thing that Word gets right, annoyingly.
> 
> Z
> 
> 

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