Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:06:15 -0700

Just to be clear .. I don't consider the inability to have the changing of an attribute affect the corresponding object property to be a bug (although it would be nice if it did) .. but if you're not able to modify the default value of an attribute/property by changing the underlying EDD or r/w rules, that would be a bug. I though that you could do that for image alignment, but can't check right now.

...scott
On 6/13/13 7:54 AM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
I'll defer to any corrections Scott has on this topic, but I don't think Adobe will consider this a bug.

One of the advantages of using Fm to edit structure is that many formatting attributes can be controlled via Fm's interactive properties.

Attributes are typically mapped to Fm attributes via the Read/Write rules in your structured application. To change that behavior, you would change the files that make up the structured application.


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On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Heather Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you very much, Scott! I appreciate your feedback. When I was looking for an image properties dialog, I came across the Anchored Frame dialog and you're right, it does set the alignment attribute too.

I will report the bug to Adobe because I'd prefer to not have to set that for each image!

Heather 


Scott Prentice <[email protected]> , 6/11/2013 3:34 PM:
Hi Heather...

I believe that FM's default DITA support doesn't respond to editing the image attributes directly (might work with some of them). Select the anchored frame and choose Special > Anchored Frame, then select the desired alignment. This will set the frame alignment and *should* set the alignment attribute as well. There are a number of other properties/attributes that work this way as well. In general, it's set up to use the "GUI" property setting options rather than setting things via attributes.

You should be able set the default value in the EDD and the r/w rules, and it should honor that when inserting the image. If it doesn't, that's definitely a bug.

BTW .. DITA-FMx does these things properly.  :o

Cheers,

...scott
On 6/11/13 12:19 PM, Heather Thomas wrote:
Thank you, Nadine and Scott, for your replies.

Nadine: I am using FM 11 (sorry I didn't specify in my first post). Yes, I want to change the default alignment of images. I did change the default setting in the EDD and then import the element definitions into my template. I know that the EDD was imported because when I set choices vs. string, I could see the choices in the Attributes pod. What I'm asking is why FrameMaker is ignoring the default of left that I set and leaving it as <no value>, but instead is making it center aligned when I save. What's especially mysterious is that it actually says at the bottom of the Attributes pod "align Type: Optional Choice Default: left" but doesn't use that default value.

Scott: Thanks for your suggestion to "use the default image properties dialog. Don't try setting the element attribute." I happily excused your unexpected brevity because you sent your message from your phone. :) Perhaps sometime when you are at your computer, could you please elaborate on this? I can't find the dialog you mentioned, and if this is actually a bug that I can't set the element attribute using my EDD, then I would like to report it. I have read your response on the following Adobe forum post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3681019. Like the original poster there, the Anchored Frame dialog works properly for me. Manually setting the attribute to left does what I would expect as well. I have also ensured that I have the following in my rules:
attribute "align" {

    is fm attribute "align";

    is fm property alignment;

    value "left" is fm property value align left;

Like I said before, it's not critical or anything, but it would be nice if we could set the default alignment in the EDD and have FM obey it.

Thanks again!
Heather

PS - Please note that there is a delay of at least 24 hours from the time I post to the time my message appears on the list.

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