"Robert CH Shell" <rsh...@iafrica.com> One big file 200mb or small files 
grouped for a

Carol J. Elkins" <celk...@awrittenword.com> 

Carol,

That is exactly what I do....




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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:31 -0600
From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celk...@awrittenword.com>
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a
        commercial      pdf     produ
Message-ID: <20130908181639.5315514e0f...@beyondprint.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

What I do is to create a welcome or home page (which is a PDF file) that 
automatically launches when the CD is inserted. The welcome file contains links 
to the other books on the CD. That makes it easier and quicker for the user to 
navigate around the CD. Each book's PDF has a Return to Welcome Page bookmark 
at the bottom, allowing the user to return to the home page to access a 
different book.

Carol

>With the advent of the rich media formats, my commercial pdfs are 
>getting bigger and bigger.
>When compiling a final  product should I generate the separate child 
>books as separate pdfs and then group them before copying the group to 
>the final CD?.

******************************************
Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
Making Information Understandable
Phone: 719-948-3773
mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com
http://www.awrittenword.com
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:06:58 +0200
From: "Robert CH Shell" <rsh...@iafrica.com>
To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a commercial
        pdf     product?
Message-ID: <000e01ceac16$928ac8f0$b7a05ad0$@iafrica.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Hi framers: 
I need some advice from anyone with FM commercial experience of selling pdf 
CDs. 

With the advent of the rich media formats, my commercial pdfs are getting 
bigger and bigger.
When compiling a final  product should I generate the separate child books as 
separate pdfs and then group them before copying the group to the final CD?. 

Would the buyer have problem loading or reading the grouped files, or should I 
just use my normal route of creating one huge pdf?

I also think, but do not know, that a customer with a smaller computer might 
have a problem with a huge file, although my little laptop does not have a 
problem with the single file although it flashes a message "This file is over 
100MB"
Any pointers?
Rob Shell
rsh...@iafrica.com
rsh...@uwc.ac.za
shell.robert....@gmail.com

computer rig:
PC
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   1. Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
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   3. Re: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:10:26 +0200
From: "Klaus Daube" <fr...@daube.ch>
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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Subject: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
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Dear all,

I'm a layman with respect to Dita, but need to convert a deeply nested DitaMap 
to a FrameMaker book.
It turns out that Save DitaMap as "Book 11.0 with FM components (*.book)" does 
not convert all items.

See the pdf for both the structure of the DitaMap and the resulting FM-book:

- The items from the backmatter are completely missing in the FM-book
- Starting somewhere in chapter 7 ditamaps are no more converted to FM

I wanted to do this in FM-9 at first, but this tilts during the Save DitaMap 
as, Hence I do this in
FM-11.0.2.384 

Ideas how to cope with this problem are highly welcome!

Klaus Daube
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & 
consultancy; On-line and paper
F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch

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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:31 -0600
From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celk...@awrittenword.com>
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a
        commercial      pdf     produ
Message-ID: <20130908181639.5315514e0f...@beyondprint.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

What I do is to create a welcome or home page (which is a PDF file) that 
automatically launches when the CD is inserted. The welcome file contains links 
to the other books on the CD. That makes it easier and quicker for the user to 
navigate around the CD. Each book's PDF has a Return to Welcome Page bookmark 
at the bottom, allowing the user to return to the home page to access a 
different book.

Carol

>With the advent of the rich media formats, my commercial pdfs are 
>getting bigger and bigger.
>When compiling a final  product should I generate the separate child 
>books as separate pdfs and then group them before copying the group to 
>the final CD?.

******************************************
Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
Making Information Understandable
Phone: 719-948-3773
mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com
http://www.awrittenword.com
*******************************************



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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:23:31 -0700
From: Matt Sullivan <m...@mattrsullivan.com>
To: fr...@daube.ch,     "framers@lists.frameusers.com List"
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Subject: Re: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
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Hi Klaus,

See the recording of my DITA to PDF webinar I did for Adobe recently. You can 
find the recording at http://adobe.ly/15QxArz.

You can skip to the 23:25 mark in the recording to listen to the part of the 
presentation related saving as Fm, and related to the ditafm-output.ini.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan
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On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Klaus Daube <fr...@daube.ch> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I'm a layman with respect to Dita, but need to convert a deeply nested 
> DitaMap to a FrameMaker book.
> It turns out that Save DitaMap as "Book 11.0 with FM components (*.book)" 
> does not convert all items.
> 
> See the pdf for both the structure of the DitaMap and the resulting FM-book:
> 
> - The items from the backmatter are completely missing in the FM-book
> - Starting somewhere in chapter 7 ditamaps are no more converted to FM
> 
> I wanted to do this in FM-9 at first, but this tilts during the Save 
> DitaMap as, Hence I do this in
> FM-11.0.2.384
> 
> Ideas how to cope with this problem are highly welcome!
> 
> Klaus Daube
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical 
> documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
> F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch
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