Is there an index marker for "America" by itself? Conceivably that could affect what's nested underneath it.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:34 PM, VLM TechSubs <techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote: > One proverbial "more thing" ... In the mif file, there are actually two > markers back to back, separated by the word "The ": > > <Marker > <MType 2> > <MTypeName `Index'> > <MText `Coinage:Debasement:Coinage Act of 1965'> > <MCurrPage `112'> > <Unique 1027096> > > # end of Marker > <String `The '> > <Marker > <MType 2> > <MTypeName `Index'> > <MText `America:Coinage Act of 1965'> > <MCurrPage `112'> > <Unique 1026673> > > # end of Marker > > The first (3 levels) works, the second (two levels) fails. These are in the > same document, on the same page, constructed in what > appears to me to be the same manner in every respect. > > Shall I unsheathe my sword, in case falling on it becomes appealing? :) > > Well, not sure what to do next. > > Best to all, and many thanks, > Elchanan > > -----Original Message----- > From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:33 PM > To: 'Frank Stearns' > Cc: 'Framers' > Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax > > Okay ... > > I closed FM, reopened FM, saved every file in the book as mif, closed FM, > moved all the .fm files to another directory, relaunched > FM, opened and saved the book and each file back as .fm, saved and closed > everything, shut FM, relaunched FM, reopened everything, > saved everything, generated, and poof ... same result. > > Sigh ... (again) > > So as Frank suggested, I traced one of the faulty markers into the mif file > for the source chapter, and it says: > > <Marker > <MType 2> > <MTypeName `Index'> > <MText `America:Coinage Act of 1965'> > <MCurrPage `112'> > <Unique 1026673> > > # end of Marker > > which looks fine to me, but someone more knowledgeable might spot something > that I'm missing. > > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! And Frank, if you really are > willing to look at the file, I'd be most grateful and eager. > :) > > Best to all, > Elchanan > > -----Original Message----- > From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:59 PM > To: 'Frank Stearns' > Cc: 'Framers' > Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax > > Oh, I don't know what I was thinking. I've got a mif file open in Notepad++, > no problem. Will write more in a bit. > Elchanan > > -----Original Message----- > From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 6:43 PM > To: 'Frank Stearns' > Cc: 'Framers' > Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax > > Thanks Frank, Robert, Jeremy, et. al. I so appreciate your help! > > More info: > > 1. I now see that even a simple marker entry "<Emphasis>Eisphora" has this > problem. It appears in the "correct" location > alphabetically, it just looks like > > . . . . . . 1 > > 2. The original files were created in Word, but with no indexing. I put in > 100% of these markers by hand, by myself, this week, in > FrameMaker 8. In other words, they "shouldn't" be affected by Word or the > like. FYI, the ToC works just fine. > > 3. I just did the following: > > 3.1 Shut Frame. > 3.2 Relaunched Frame. > 3.3 Opened book file. > 3.4 Opened all files in book. Got some font and xref error messages, clicked > through those. > 3.5 Highlighted, then saved, all files in book. > 3.6 Generated ToC and index. > 3.7 Saved all files in book. > 3.8 Opened index. > 3.9 Found one of the offending entries, jumped to its source. It was a > compound marker (2 entries in one marker). > 3.10 I copied one of the entries for reference, clicked in the document a few > words away, and manually typed in the text for the > marker "America:Income tax of 1894", just like that. > 3.11 Went to book file, all files selected, save all files in book, then > generate. > 3.12 Entry appears in the correct location, without any text only page #, and > when I jump from that page number it takes me to the > new marker I just created. > 3.13 So I jump there, notice that the original marker is still in place, > delete it, returned to 3.7 or so, repeated the whole > process, same result. > 3.14 Saved the index as mif, closed it, deleted the .fm version, reopened > from mif, saved as FM 8, went to book, save all files in > book, generate, save all files in book, jump to index, and voila! Same result > as before. > > Sigh ... > > BTW, between steps, I recall breathing. :) > > Frank, I am most willing and eager to try your step #4, but I've forgotten > how to open the mif as text in Frame, after saving it. > ??? > > Thanks, > Elchanan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Stearns [mailto:fra...@fsatools.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 6:03 PM > To: VLM TechSubs > Cc: Framers > Subject: Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, VLM TechSubs wrote: > >> Greetings! > >> I'm going in circles here. I have a marker of type Index with the >> content "America:Coinage Act of 1965". This appears in the index as a >> line under "America", indented to the second level (correct so far), >> but with only a page number, no text. I copied and pasted the marker >> content into the preceding line. I must be missing something, but I >> cannot figure out what. I have removed and recreated the marker from >> scratch, to no avail. Can someone see an error on my part here? > > If entered as stated, you should be fine. > > But, after having specialized in FM indexes for 20+ years, we have seen some > odd things happen with markers... > > 1. Was this document originally created in Word then imported to FM? > Sometimes those converted markers are "dirty" and contain unseen, unprintable > characters that can cause odd FM behavior. BTW, there > is NO CR or LF in the entry, correct? Your entry is one string, on one line > in the marker? > > 2. Try a "MIF wash." But this won't remove unwanted "bad" characters. > It will just refresh/rebuild the object lists. > > 3. For fun, put a new marker, hand typed, at or near the same place (no copy > and paste). Does that new entry work? > > 4. If you're really adventurous, save as MIF, search for the entry, and see > what all might be included with that marker. (Relates to > #1, > above.) > > If all of the above fails, feel free to send us a copy of the doc for > evaluation. > > Hope this helps, > > Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r) > *** IXGEN 7-10 for FRAMEMAKER 10/11 IS HERE! *** fra...@fsatools.com > <mailto:fra...@fsatools.com> TOLL FREE Voice (USA and Canada): > 800-567-6421 USA Voice: 435-275-8981 http://www.fsatools.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. > > Send list messages to firstname.lastname@example.org. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. 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