Thanks for reminding me about coordinating tag content with the developers. ☺

We’ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he’s helped 
us realize that I might have been describing our challenge incorrectly. The 
developers are using VS 2010 to create an application that will run 
independently from Visual Studio, using .NET 4.0 as the framework. From 
everything we’ve read, it seems that MS Help Viewer only works if Visual Studio 
is installed; is that right?

Fei Min

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:21 AM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

Fei Min,
Yes, both Omnihelp and OracleHelp for Java are very fast and very flexible.
Both the HTML Help Workshop help and Mif2Go Users Guide, discuss how to go 
about creating the tags necessary to make context-sensitive help work. The 
primary thing, from what i have have found, is the calls from the help to the 
application requires close coordination between the help and application 
developers to determine a mutually agreeable tag content.


On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:12 AM, Fei Min Lorente 
<feimin.lore...@onsemi.com<mailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com>> wrote:
Okay, point taken. We won’t worry about all the HTML files being exposed in 
OmniHelp. And our software developer did notice how fast it was.

So we’re looking at context-sensitive help to see if we can get that to work in 
MS Help Viewer or anything else. It’s not a requirement right now, especially 
if it’s going to add any significant time to the schedule, but I’m convinced 
that it’s a key feature that can enhance the user experience, and one of the 
few advantages that HTML can provide over PDF. If we don’t implement it this 
time around, I’d like to include it next time.

Fei Min

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM
To: Fei Min Lorente; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

Fei Min,
Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult 
to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do?
I produce OracleHelp for Java from Frame source. It also produces HTML for the 
content. It is delivered as server based, but there is nothing to prevent 
someone changing the HTML. Haven't heard of anyone doing it.

Dave


On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:43 PM, Fei Min Lorente 
<feimin.lore...@onsemi.com<mailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com>> wrote:
Okay, that would explain why no one seems to be using Eclipse Help unless it's 
an Eclipse product. :-)

We're concerned about the OmniHelp files on the theory that if people can do 
something, someone will. That could be a completely unfounded concern, so I'm 
glad to hear opinions to the contrary.

Fei Min

-----Original Message-----
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com<mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com> 
[mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com<mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com>] On 
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format

I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated 
distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case 
where it would make sense.

Why would users mess with your help files?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente 
<feimin.lore...@onsemi.com<mailto:feimin.lore...@onsemi.com>> wrote:
> And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about 
> users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down?
>
> We're very curious about using standalone Eclipse Help; has anyone here used 
> it for a non-Eclipse-based product? If not, I'll take this question to the 
> eclipse_tw group.
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